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From: John B. on 5 May 2010 11:15 On May 5, 10:23 am, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:4be16b3f$0$4972$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > > On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:42:31 -0700, kenpitts wrote: > >> On May 4, 6:43 am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > > >>> Neither true Liberals nor true Conservatives all agree. Only the > >>> non-thinkers accept someone else's opinions completely. > > >>> One proposal I've seen from the left which has a better chance of > >>> working than the rightest proposals is to provide better and cheaper > >>> ways for employers to verify a person's right to work. This could > >>> be with a bio-metric ID card. > > >> I agree. Verification for everyone on a payroll. Believe it or not, I > >> work at a defense contractor and the guys who just renovated the area > >> next to mine were all speaking Spanish. I would bet less than a > >> quarter of them should have been working at all. > > >> Send them all back where they came from. It cheapens the > >> accomplishments of those who immigrated legally. > > > How many American citizens do you know who would be willing to work 12 > > hour days bent over picking strawberries for less than minimum wage, > > with no benefits? > > Perhaps the employers shouldn't be doing this in the first place.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - The worst job in America may be cutting up cows or pigs in a slaughterhouse. The only people willing to do it are illegal aliens. Are you going to say that Swift, Hormel, Tyson, et al "shouldn't be doing this?" Should we all become vegetarians? No, wait, the only people willing to do farm labor are illegal aliens, too. Hmm, I guess we'll all have to start raising our own livestock and growing our own produce.
From: dene on 5 May 2010 12:21 "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:381be576-838e-4120-b7e3-3cd6524f05e7(a)e35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... On May 4, 5:44 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:cb413622-2da1-415b-8b59-4e2f16cc6ba6(a)e1g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... > On May 4, 12:28 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > "Howard Brazee" <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote in message > > >news:5s10u5999v9sgj93s7n0u6ug65gmabv604(a)4ax.com... > > > > Neither true Liberals nor true Conservatives all agree. Only the > > > non-thinkers accept someone else's opinions completely. > > > > One proposal I've seen from the left which has a better chance of > > > working than the rightest proposals is to provide better and cheaper > > > ways for employers to verify a person's right to work. This could > > > be with a bio-metric ID card. > > > I like this idea. Frankly, I don't see what the fuss is with the Az. law. > > If you have a driver's license, you're legal. If not, prove otherwise. > > > -Greg > > Having a drivers license doesn't make you legal. Not having one > doesn't make you illegal. The problem with the AZ law is that police > departments and officers who like it are going to enforce it zealously > and those that don't are going to ignore it. > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > That's better than the liberal solution, i.e. better than nothing. > > -Greg The liberal solution is not "nothing." It's to have comprehensive, nationwide immigration reform. ---------------------------------------------------------------- And the details are???? -Greg
From: MNMikeW on 5 May 2010 12:21 "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:c69d9c3b-3540-4e20-8b09-c600c0b148c5(a)d19g2000yqf.googlegroups.com... On May 5, 10:23 am, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:4be16b3f$0$4972$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > > On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:42:31 -0700, kenpitts wrote: > >> On May 4, 6:43 am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > > >>> Neither true Liberals nor true Conservatives all agree. Only the > >>> non-thinkers accept someone else's opinions completely. > > >>> One proposal I've seen from the left which has a better chance of > >>> working than the rightest proposals is to provide better and cheaper > >>> ways for employers to verify a person's right to work. This could > >>> be with a bio-metric ID card. > > >> I agree. Verification for everyone on a payroll. Believe it or not, I > >> work at a defense contractor and the guys who just renovated the area > >> next to mine were all speaking Spanish. I would bet less than a > >> quarter of them should have been working at all. > > >> Send them all back where they came from. It cheapens the > >> accomplishments of those who immigrated legally. > > > How many American citizens do you know who would be willing to work 12 > > hour days bent over picking strawberries for less than minimum wage, > > with no benefits? > > Perhaps the employers shouldn't be doing this in the first place.- Hide > quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - The worst job in America may be cutting up cows or pigs in a slaughterhouse. The only people willing to do it are illegal aliens. Are you going to say that Swift, Hormel, Tyson, et al "shouldn't be doing this?" Should we all become vegetarians? No, wait, the only people willing to do farm labor are illegal aliens, too. Hmm, I guess we'll all have to start raising our own livestock and growing our own produce. =========================================== The only people willing to do farm labor for less than min wage are illegal's. With unemployment around 10% I would imagine there are more than a few what would do it.
From: bknight on 5 May 2010 12:36 On Wed, 5 May 2010 11:21:30 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: >=========================================== >The only people willing to do farm labor for less than min wage are >illegal's. With unemployment around 10% I would imagine there are more than >a few what would do it. > Then why aren't they? The simple fact of cheap Mexican labor is that they're willing to work hard for little money.....Americans aren't. The U.S. is to blame for the Mexican dope trade too. Guess who's buying it? So if we could find American workers who wouldn't mind hard work, and lay off heroin products, it would go a long way in fixing both problems. :-) BK
From: F. Kurgan Gringioni on 5 May 2010 12:38
"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:d7f32a2b-ab90-4f65-ab97-a74eb73c62c4(a)q32g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >> >> I agree. Verification for everyone on a payroll. Believe it or not, I >> work at a defense contractor and the guys who just renovated the area >> next to mine were all speaking Spanish. I would bet less than a >> quarter of them should have been working at all. >> >> Send them all back where they came from. It cheapens the >> accomplishments of those who immigrated legally. >> >> Ken > > Send them all back? Exactly how might that be accomplished? That's easy. All we need is an American version of the Gestapo. |