From: Howard Brazee on
On Fri, 07 May 2010 12:01:06 -0500, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:

>
>The most basic tenet of our society is keeping us safe from those who
>would bring harm to us. When your happiness puts me at risk it is a
>basic wrong. Period.
>
>It's insane to give such freedom when you are assured that it will, in
>fact, cause harm to others. Your opinion would be different if a
>loved one was killed by someone driving a car while high on cocaine.
>If not, you're certainly in the minority.

And your desire to have Big Government make those drugs profitable to
crime syndicates is dangerous to me and mine.


--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on
On Fri, 7 May 2010 12:11:38 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
wrote:

>I've had two friends die from drugs. One with coke, one meth. Our society
>would end as we know it if these drugs were ever legalized.

People die from alcohol as well.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on
On Fri, 07 May 2010 12:30:47 -0500, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:

>Why is it bullshit? Of course our society would
>change....drastically. That's the same as "end as we know it".

All societies change....drastically. Change happens.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on
On Fri, 7 May 2010 09:58:31 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com>
wrote:

>Exactly. I have a former client/friend who was a successful businessman,
>church elder, and family man. He tried Meth once and was immediately hooked
>and consumed by it. Sold the business to support his habit. Beat his wife
>and was imprisoned for it, losing all contact with his children.
>Released....went to Mexico to resume his addiction and was murdered in a
>drug deal gone bad.
>
>Nobody can know for certain what our triggers are until they are pulled. By
>keeping the hard stuff illegal, it helps responsible people to not be
>"tempted beyond what they are able to resist." Also, it punishes those who
>exploit these weaknesses.

So obviously you want to return to prohibition, right?

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on
On Thu, 6 May 2010 06:09:21 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
<johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>This is not a simple matter of what one does to oneself. Drug addicts
>impose costs on society. They commit crimes to get money for drugs.
>They can't hold jobs. They go on welfare. They get sick and require
>medical care they can't pay for. They have children that they can't
>properly care for and those children grow up to be screw-ups who
>impose further costs on society.

Yep. And we tried making the biggest culprit illegal. It made
things worse.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison