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From: Carbon on 5 May 2010 15:04 On Wed, 05 May 2010 09:50:19 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4be1850a$0$5035$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> On Wed, 05 May 2010 09:23:22 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: >>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>> news:4be16b3f$0$4972$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>> On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:42:31 -0700, kenpitts wrote: >>>>> On May 4, 6:43 am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Neither true Liberals nor true Conservatives all agree. Only the >>>>>> non-thinkers accept someone else's opinions completely. >>>>>> >>>>>> One proposal I've seen from the left which has a better chance of >>>>>> working than the rightest proposals is to provide better and >>>>>> cheaper ways for employers to verify a person's right to work. >>>>>> This could be with a bio-metric ID card. >>>>> >>>>> I agree. Verification for everyone on a payroll. Believe it or >>>>> not, I work at a defense contractor and the guys who just >>>>> renovated the area next to mine were all speaking Spanish. I would >>>>> bet less than a quarter of them should have been working at all. >>>>> >>>>> Send them all back where they came from. It cheapens the >>>>> accomplishments of those who immigrated legally. >>>> >>>> How many American citizens do you know who would be willing to work >>>> 12 hour days bent over picking strawberries for less than minimum >>>> wage, with no benefits? >>> >>> Perhaps the employers shouldn't be doing this in the first place. >> >> No interfering with the free market, you socialist! > > So we can abolish the minimum wage then? Of course! What could possibly go wrong?
From: John B. on 5 May 2010 15:15 On May 5, 1:37 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote in message > > news:84dlitFleaU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > > > > > > > > <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > >news:d873u51f2k5rtc9lsamj7esp79nqhm787a(a)4ax.com... > > > On Wed, 5 May 2010 11:21:30 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> > > > wrote: > > > >>=========================================== > > >>The only people willing to do farm labor for less than min wage are > > >>illegal's. With unemployment around 10% I would imagine there are more > > >>than > > >>a few what would do it. > > > > Then why aren't they? The simple fact of cheap Mexican labor is that > > > they're willing to work hard for little money.....Americans aren't. > > > Remember the days when teenagers actually worked? > > I worked instead of playing sports. A big mistake, which hasn't been > repeated with my kids. They have the rest of their lives to work. Playing > HS sports is a once in a lifetime opportunity. > > -Greg- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Couldn't agree more. I played MS and HS sports and wouldn't trade that experience for anything.
From: MNMikeW on 5 May 2010 15:18 "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:cf197252-8652-40b5-a057-ccb847dd0ed7(a)i9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com... On May 5, 12:21 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:c69d9c3b-3540-4e20-8b09-c600c0b148c5(a)d19g2000yqf.googlegroups.com... > On May 5, 10:23 am, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > >news:4be16b3f$0$4972$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:42:31 -0700, kenpitts wrote: > > >> On May 4, 6:43 am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > > > >>> Neither true Liberals nor true Conservatives all agree. Only the > > >>> non-thinkers accept someone else's opinions completely. > > > >>> One proposal I've seen from the left which has a better chance of > > >>> working than the rightest proposals is to provide better and cheaper > > >>> ways for employers to verify a person's right to work. This could > > >>> be with a bio-metric ID card. > > > >> I agree. Verification for everyone on a payroll. Believe it or not, I > > >> work at a defense contractor and the guys who just renovated the area > > >> next to mine were all speaking Spanish. I would bet less than a > > >> quarter of them should have been working at all. > > > >> Send them all back where they came from. It cheapens the > > >> accomplishments of those who immigrated legally. > > > > How many American citizens do you know who would be willing to work 12 > > > hour days bent over picking strawberries for less than minimum wage, > > > with no benefits? > > > Perhaps the employers shouldn't be doing this in the first place.- Hide > > quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > The worst job in America may be cutting up cows or pigs in a > slaughterhouse. The only people willing to do it are illegal aliens. > Are you going to say that Swift, Hormel, Tyson, et al "shouldn't be > doing this?" Should we all become vegetarians? No, wait, the only > people willing to do farm labor are illegal aliens, too. Hmm, I guess > we'll all have to start raising our own livestock and growing our own > produce. > > =========================================== > The only people willing to do farm labor for less than min wage are > illegal's. With unemployment around 10% I would imagine there are more > than > a few what would do it.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, where are they? --------------------------------- Waiting around for the illegal's to go home.
From: MNMikeW on 5 May 2010 15:20 "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote in message news:84dofeF7s1U1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote in message > news:84dlitFleaU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> >> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message >> news:d873u51f2k5rtc9lsamj7esp79nqhm787a(a)4ax.com... >> > On Wed, 5 May 2010 11:21:30 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> >>=========================================== >> >>The only people willing to do farm labor for less than min wage are >> >>illegal's. With unemployment around 10% I would imagine there are more >> >>than >> >>a few what would do it. >> >> >> > >> > Then why aren't they? The simple fact of cheap Mexican labor is that >> > they're willing to work hard for little money.....Americans aren't. >> > >> Remember the days when teenagers actually worked? > > I worked instead of playing sports. A big mistake, which hasn't been > repeated with my kids. They have the rest of their lives to work. > Playing > HS sports is a once in a lifetime opportunity. > > -Greg > > I managed to do both. It's a lot more expensive to be a teen than when we were teens. Mine is holding out for a golf course job.
From: Frank Ketchum on 5 May 2010 14:59
<bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message news:t0e3u59l82g1f7i53jt4jsofo7f7b81mno(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 5 May 2010 13:05:33 -0400, "Frank Ketchum" > <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: > >> >><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message >>news:d873u51f2k5rtc9lsamj7esp79nqhm787a(a)4ax.com... >>> On Wed, 5 May 2010 11:21:30 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>=========================================== >>>>The only people willing to do farm labor for less than min wage are >>>>illegal's. With unemployment around 10% I would imagine there are more >>>>than >>>>a few what would do it. >>>> >>> >>> Then why aren't they? The simple fact of cheap Mexican labor is that >>> they're willing to work hard for little money.....Americans aren't. >>> >>> The U.S. is to blame for the Mexican dope trade too. Guess who's >>> buying it? >>> >>> So if we could find American workers who wouldn't mind hard work, and >>> lay off heroin products, it would go a long way in fixing both >>> problems. :-) >> >>Americans are plenty willing to work hard, they are just unwilling to work >>hard at the wage level that all of the illegals are. > > There are plenty of them whose unemployment is about to run out. Think > they'll stoop (no pun intended) to this kind of work then? > > > <clip> >>Laying off drugs? Not going to happen. How about legalizing the drugs? >>That actually would work. >> > Marijuana only. You can't be serious about legalizing heroin, > cocaine or meth. Why not? You think that silly laws prevent anyone intent on using drugs from using? Drug laws only push the drug trade underground where profits are sky high, no regulation or quality control exists and drug cartels are made possible and powerful. I am not an advocate of drug use, but I can see this for what it is. Our current cure is worse than the disease. |