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From: Carbon on 10 May 2010 21:00 On Mon, 10 May 2010 11:48:52 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4be49bce$0$12435$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> On Fri, 07 May 2010 08:01:16 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: >>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>> news:4be3461c$0$18607$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>> On Thu, 06 May 2010 18:34:15 -0400, BAR wrote: >>>>> In article <4be2ad6b$0$4893$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >>>>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >>>>> >>>>>> So ends our discussion of the blindingly obvious. >>>>> >>>>> Why, because you said so? Did you go to the Billy Clark school of >>>>> discussion? >>>> >>>> The notion that politicians of both parties routinely do favors in >>>> exchange for campaign contributions is so self-evidently true that >>>> I thought even people as biased as yourself would instantly grasp >>>> it. I sincerely apologize if I have over-estimated your capacity >>>> for rational thought. >>> >>> Tell us the party the continually rails against big business yet is >>> always in the top spots on the contribution lists. Take a guess who >>> the biggest recipient of BP money was in 2008. You know, the company >>> with the boot on their throats. >> >> Oh god. You're actually suggesting that one group of politicians is >> somehow less corrupt than another group of politicians, when both >> groups face the same pressures to raise money to get re-elected, etc. >> etc.? >> >> I'm not even sure where to start with that. Washington is an equal >> opportunity corruptor. > > It is. But is seems its only corruption when the right does it. > Otherwise its just politics as usual in D.C. And the right aren't the > ones railing against big business. The Obama administration seems to be attempting to curb the influence of lobbyists in Washington. It will accomplish nothing, because among other things the Supreme Court recently abolished the cap on campaign contributions. Perhaps those buying the laws could sponsor the bills too. "Today's FDA, brought to you by Tyson Foods and KFC!" I have nothing against large corporations. But it would be incredibly naive to give them the run of the place. If left alone they will take huge risks with the taxpayers' health and well being in their pursuit of quarterly profits. Banks will cook their books. Oil companies will fight safety measures which cost hundreds of thousands of dollars...
From: William Clark on 10 May 2010 21:02 In article <4be8a897$0$22215$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > On Mon, 10 May 2010 18:55:39 -0400, BAR wrote: > > In article <457cf279-2014-443a-b7f5-ee36a8baf4d3 > > @k31g2000vbu.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > >> On May 9, 9:58 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > >>> In article <4be6bd3c$0$21861$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > >>> nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >>>> On Sun, 09 May 2010 01:07:56 -0400, BAR wrote: > >>>>> In article <e9313f6a-885e-44f8-b4cb-5362aeb48277 > >>>>> @b7g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > >>>>> > >>>>>> How is that reciprocal when Americans can own property in Mexico? > >>>>> > >>>>> Please provide proof that US nationals can be majority owners of > >>>>> real property in Mexico. > >>>> > >>>> Please provide proof that rounding up undocumented workers by the > >>>> thousands and murdering them is a good idea. > >>> > >>> Nice try buddy. The legal term is illegal aliens. > >>> > >>> I never said anything about rounding up illegal aliens and murdering > >>> them. What I said is we round up illegal aliens and we ship them > >>> back to their country of origin. > >>> > >>> What we need to do is put the US military on our borders and shoot > >>> anyone trying to enter the country illegally. > >> > >> You also said that illegal aliens caught here should be tattooed, > >> like the Nazis did to Jews. > > > > No, I said we should tattoo those caught here as illegal aliens and > > then deport them. The scarlet letter has its uses. > > Your idiot impression is extremely good. Er, I don't think it's an impression - it's the real thing.
From: Carbon on 10 May 2010 21:07 On Mon, 10 May 2010 19:57:09 -0400, BAR wrote: > In article <b7a230ab-06a3-4fd7-9b9d-c3656cb2d549 > @j35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... >> On May 9, 10:32 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> On May 9, 9:13 am, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >>>> On Sun, 09 May 2010 09:58:26 -0400, BAR wrote: >>>>> In article <4be6bd3c$0$21861$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >>>>> nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >>>>>> On Sun, 09 May 2010 01:07:56 -0400, BAR wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Please provide proof that US nationals can be majority owners of >>>>>>> real property in Mexico. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please provide proof that rounding up undocumented workers by the >>>>>> thousands and murdering them is a good idea. >>>>> >>>>> Nice try buddy. The legal term is illegal aliens. >>>>> >>>>> I never said anything about rounding up illegal aliens and >>>>> murdering them. What I said is we round up illegal aliens and we >>>>> ship them back to their country of origin. >>>>> >>>>> What we need to do is put the US military on our borders and shoot >>>>> anyone trying to enter the country illegally. >>>> >>>> Please provide proof that putting the US military on the border and >>>> shooting anyone trying to enter the country illegally is a good >>>> idea. >>> >>> Proof? We don't need no stinking proof. It is clearly a good idea. >> >> If you're stupid and barbaric. > > Do you have locks on the doors of your house and cars? If yes, why? Please tell me you're not trying to equate murdering Mexicans with locking doors.
From: dene on 10 May 2010 22:19 "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message news:wclark2-BDBE82.21024310052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > In article <4be8a897$0$22215$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, 10 May 2010 18:55:39 -0400, BAR wrote: > > > In article <457cf279-2014-443a-b7f5-ee36a8baf4d3 > > > @k31g2000vbu.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > >> On May 9, 9:58� am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > >>> In article <4be6bd3c$0$21861$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > >>> nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > >>>> On Sun, 09 May 2010 01:07:56 -0400, BAR wrote: > > >>>>> In article <e9313f6a-885e-44f8-b4cb-5362aeb48277 > > >>>>> @b7g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> How is that reciprocal when Americans can own property in Mexico? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Please provide proof that US nationals can be majority owners of > > >>>>> real property in Mexico. > > >>>> > > >>>> Please provide proof that rounding up undocumented workers by the > > >>>> thousands and murdering them is a good idea. > > >>> > > >>> Nice try buddy. The legal term is illegal aliens. > > >>> > > >>> I never said anything about rounding up illegal aliens and murdering > > >>> them. What I said is we round up illegal aliens and we ship them > > >>> back to their country of origin. > > >>> > > >>> What we need to do is put the US military on our borders and shoot > > >>> anyone trying to enter the country illegally. > > >> > > >> You also said that illegal aliens caught here should be tattooed, > > >> like the Nazis did to Jews. > > > > > > No, I said we should tattoo those caught here as illegal aliens and > > > then deport them. The scarlet letter has its uses. > > > > Your idiot impression is extremely good. > > Er, I don't think it's an impression - it's the real thing. Late to the party, Billy. Perhaps the subject of illegal immigration was making you nervous. -Greg
From: dene on 10 May 2010 22:21
"Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message news:tbahu5pcbiskjlm6mt2gtrsd7h2po9l1ms(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 10 May 2010 09:25:59 -0700 (PDT), "John B." > <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >If narcotics are made legal and easy to buy, will drug addiction - and > >the many problems it imposes on society - go up or down? > > Total amount? We're guessing. What happened when Prohibition was > repealed? > > The population of abusers will likely be different. We won't have > as many problems with criminal gangs. The people working on the > problem will be social workers, freeing up police to do other vital > work. A flock of social workers. Just what our society needs. Prison is more effective. Cleans up the addicts and makes them think twice about using again. -Greg |