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From: Frank Ketchum on 5 May 2010 15:42 "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote in message news:84doilF8giU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "Frank Ketchum" <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote in message > news:NzhEn.169310$EE6.146075(a)newsfe23.iad... >> >> "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote in message >> news:8497juFmgbU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -Greg >> > >> > >> >> Reminds me of what Republicans did when they had a chance. > > Agree. The Bush admin. failed us in this regard. However, AZ. has taken > steps and the Left's response is to cry racism while producing no > solutions > of their own. Politicians from both sides haven't viewed this as a problem at all. They have viewed this as a voting block.
From: BAR on 5 May 2010 18:14 In article <2010050508064995026-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom>, none_of_your_business(a)all.com says... > > On 2010-05-05 07:52:21 -0400, BAR said: > > > In article <381be576-838e-4120-b7e3-3cd6524f05e7 > > @e35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > >> > >> On May 4, 5:44�pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > >>> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >>> > >>> news:cb413622-2da1-415b-8b59-4e2f16cc6ba6(a)e1g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... > >>> On May 4, 12:28 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> "Howard Brazee" <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote in message > >>> > >>>> news:5s10u5999v9sgj93s7n0u6ug65gmabv604(a)4ax.com... > >>> > >>>>> Neither true Liberals nor true Conservatives all agree. Only the > >>>>> non-thinkers accept someone else's opinions completely. > >>> > >>>>> One proposal I've seen from the left which has a better chance of > >>>>> working than the rightest proposals is to provide better and cheaper > >>>>> ways for employers to verify a person's right to work. This could > >>>>> be with a bio-metric ID card. > >>> > >>>> I like this idea. Frankly, I don't see what the fuss is with the Az. law. > >>>> If you have a driver's license, you're legal. If not, prove otherwise. > >>> > >>>> -Greg > >>> > >>> Having a drivers license doesn't make you legal. Not having one > >>> doesn't make you illegal. The problem with the AZ law is that police > >>> departments and officers who like it are going to enforce it zealously > >>> and those that don't are going to ignore it. > >>> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> That's better than the liberal solution, i.e. better than nothing. > >>> > >>> -Greg > >> > >> The liberal solution is not "nothing." It's to have comprehensive, > >> nationwide immigration reform. > > > > Exactly what is "comprehensive, nationwide immigration reform?" > > > > You don't read much. > > "Comprehensive immigration reform" has been explained thousands of > times already. > > In fact, it was proposed by George W. Bush. I disagreed with much of what Bush did and proposed domestically. My version of comprehensive immigration reform is that if you are an admitted illegal alien you get shipped back to your country of origin ASAP after we tattoo a "scarlet letter" on your forehead. And, if we have to go through the process and we determine you are an illegal alien you still get sent back to your country of origin with a "scarlet letter" tattooed on your forehead. If you want to become a US citizen then there are legal ways to do so, get in line just like everyone else and do it legally. If people, like those that live near you Randy that scare you, break into your home and steal from you should the be prosecuted or should the be greeted with open arms and asked if there is anything else they want to take? Illegal is illegal and it should be dealt with as a criminal matter. The social injustices of illegal alien's home countries is not going to be solved by having those countries citizens leave and become illegal aliens in other countries.
From: BAR on 5 May 2010 18:25 In article <d7f32a2b-ab90-4f65-ab97-a74eb73c62c4 @q32g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > On May 4, 11:42�pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On May 4, 6:43�am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > > > > > Neither true Liberals nor true Conservatives all agree. � Only the > > > non-thinkers accept someone else's opinions completely. > > > > > One proposal I've seen from the left which has a better chance of > > > working than the rightest proposals is to provide better and cheaper > > > ways for employers to verify a person's right to work. � �This could > > > be with a bio-metric ID card. � > > > > > -- > > > "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, > > > than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace > > > to the legislature, and not to the executive department." > > > > > - James Madison > > > > I agree. Verification for everyone on a payroll. Believe it or not, I > > work at a defense contractor and the guys who just renovated the area > > next to mine were all speaking Spanish. I would bet less than a > > quarter of them should have been working at all. > > > > Send them all back where they came from. It cheapens the > > accomplishments of those who immigrated legally. > > > > Ken > > Send them all back? Exactly how might that be accomplished? As you find them you send them back.
From: BAR on 5 May 2010 18:30 In article <4be16b3f$0$4972$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > On Tue, 04 May 2010 20:42:31 -0700, kenpitts wrote: > > On May 4, 6:43�am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > > > >> Neither true Liberals nor true Conservatives all agree. � Only the > >> non-thinkers accept someone else's opinions completely. > >> > >> One proposal I've seen from the left which has a better chance of > >> working than the rightest proposals is to provide better and cheaper > >> ways for employers to verify a person's right to work. � �This could > >> be with a bio-metric ID card. > > > > I agree. Verification for everyone on a payroll. Believe it or not, I > > work at a defense contractor and the guys who just renovated the area > > next to mine were all speaking Spanish. I would bet less than a > > quarter of them should have been working at all. > > > > Send them all back where they came from. It cheapens the > > accomplishments of those who immigrated legally. > > How many American citizens do you know who would be willing to work 12 > hour days bent over picking strawberries for less than minimum wage, > with no benefits? The value of strawberries would go up. That is what we call market forces. > From a business perspective, undocumented workers are a gift from > heaven. Hard working, no expensive benefits to worry about, and they > have no legal recourse if you feel like screwing them over. They're > perfect. You would have been one of those good slave owners of the 17th, 18th and early 19th centuries. You know the type, they would have taught the slave children to read the bible. > For the benefit of those who somehow haven't noticed the same cycle > repeating over and over: when the Republicans are out of office the > screeching about illegals rises in volume. When the Republicans get back > in power the screeching suddenly stops. Why? Because agriculture, > construction, et cetera are big, important industries and they would be > financially devastated without undocumented workers. They spread a lot > of money around in Washington to ensure that their precious cheap labor > force is left alone. Have you ever noticed that the homeless problem is solved everytime a Democrat is elected to the presidency? > You have what amounts to a civil war in the Republican Party between > fiscal conservatives and ideologues. Even if the ideologues managed to > push their financially ill-advised policies through, very little would > really change. The Democrat party is held together with broken promisies.
From: BAR on 5 May 2010 18:37
In article <t0e3u59l82g1f7i53jt4jsofo7f7b81mno(a)4ax.com>, bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > On Wed, 5 May 2010 13:05:33 -0400, "Frank Ketchum" > <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: > > > > ><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > >news:d873u51f2k5rtc9lsamj7esp79nqhm787a(a)4ax.com... > >> On Wed, 5 May 2010 11:21:30 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>>=========================================== > >>>The only people willing to do farm labor for less than min wage are > >>>illegal's. With unemployment around 10% I would imagine there are more > >>>than > >>>a few what would do it. > >>> > >> > >> Then why aren't they? The simple fact of cheap Mexican labor is that > >> they're willing to work hard for little money.....Americans aren't. > >> > >> The U.S. is to blame for the Mexican dope trade too. Guess who's > >> buying it? > >> > >> So if we could find American workers who wouldn't mind hard work, and > >> lay off heroin products, it would go a long way in fixing both > >> problems. :-) > > > >Americans are plenty willing to work hard, they are just unwilling to work > >hard at the wage level that all of the illegals are. > > There are plenty of them whose unemployment is about to run out. Think > they'll stoop (no pun intended) to this kind of work then? As long as the Democrats are in control of the House, Senate and Oval office unemployment will be extended thru November of 2012. After that date it doesn't matter. > <clip> > >Laying off drugs? Not going to happen. How about legalizing the drugs? > >That actually would work. > > > Marijuana only. You can't be serious about legalizing heroin, > cocaine or meth. Great a bunch of lazy dope smoking idiots sitting around trying to figure out how they are going to pay for their next bag of weed? I know we can go... |