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From: Howard Brazee on 11 May 2010 21:00 On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:41:55 -0700 (PDT), "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Increased incarceration rates are one of many factors that have >> lowered the crime rate. It's not even the principal one. >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> Name the other factors. >> >> -Greg > >Economic growth in the 80s and 90s, more law enforcement officers, the >aging of the population.... The book Freakonomics mentions Roe vs Wade as being a significant factor here. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Carbon on 11 May 2010 21:05 On Tue, 11 May 2010 19:00:26 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote: > On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:41:55 -0700 (PDT), "John B." > <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> Increased incarceration rates are one of many factors that have >>>> lowered the crime rate. It's not even the principal one. >>> >>> Name the other factors. >> >> Economic growth in the 80s and 90s, more law enforcement officers, >> the aging of the population.... > > The book Freakonomics mentions Roe vs Wade as being a significant > factor here. Interesting argument and an interesting book.
From: Moderate on 11 May 2010 21:09 Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > On Tue, 11 May 2010 18:42:37 -0400, BAR wrote: > > In article <4be8ade2$0$22444$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >> On Mon, 10 May 2010 19:57:09 -0400, BAR wrote: > >>> In article <b7a230ab-06a3-4fd7-9b9d-c3656cb2d549 > >>> @j35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > >>>> On May 9, 10:32 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> On May 9, 9:13 am, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Please provide proof that putting the US military on the border > >>>>>> and shooting anyone trying to enter the country illegally is a > >>>>>> good idea. > >>>>> > >>>>> Proof? We don't need no stinking proof. It is clearly a good > > > > > > idea. > >>>> > >>>> If you're stupid and barbaric. > >>> > >>> Do you have locks on the doors of your house and cars? If yes, > > > > why? > >> > >> Please tell me you're not trying to equate murdering Mexicans with > >> locking doors. > > > > Keeping illegals out of our country is just like keeping burglars > > out > > of your house. In that sense it is the same thing. What you and your > > ilk fail to understand is that illegal is illegal regardless of > > whether you agree with the law. > > We studied personality types in college psychology. There is a segment > of the population that is unable to distinguish the difference between > law and morality. They think that all laws are good laws and be > followed, no matter how pointless or ridiculous. These people suffer > from a condition called stupidity. > They are called criminals around here.
From: William Clark on 11 May 2010 21:22 In article <84ub6fF9bdU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > news:wclark2-8CAE1E.19521511052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > In article <84to04FsbmU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message > > > news:clark-0EE06F.13513011052010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > > > > > > > Increased incarceration rates are one of many factors that have > > > > > lowered the crime rate. It's not even the principal one. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > Name the other factors. > > > > > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > > > Increased investment in policing. Duh. > > > > > > Bad guys were being caught. That was never the issue, especially since > most > > > criminals are pretty dumb. The problem is that they were having their > hands > > > slapped in the name of probation or parole and released. > > > > > > Duh. > > > > > > -Greg > > > > It was always the issue. Once you put a greater police presence on the > > ground you a) catch the bad guys, and b) drive them out of the area. > > Incarceration in the US system is proven to be neither a deterrent nor > > reforming. > > Baloney. Incaceration is the hammer to the nail. What good is law > enforcement if the crooks they catch are released, due to "rehab" or > overcrowding. Cops care alot about making sure their police work has an end > to it. My dad's favorite ending was when one bad guy murdered another. > One's dead....other one is in prison for life. Pretty good return for one > bullet. > > -Greg In the US 723 people out of every 100,000 are in prison. In Norway, the figure is 63. Which is the safer country to live in? Thank you - your "case" just fell flat on its face.
From: Carbon on 11 May 2010 21:23
On Wed, 12 May 2010 01:09:01 +0000, Moderate wrote: > Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> On Tue, 11 May 2010 18:42:37 -0400, BAR wrote: >> >>> Keeping illegals out of our country is just like keeping burglars >>> out of your house. In that sense it is the same thing. What you and >>> your ilk fail to understand is that illegal is illegal regardless of >>> whether you agree with the law. >> >> We studied personality types in college psychology. There is a >> segment of the population that is unable to distinguish the >> difference between law and morality. They think that all laws are >> good laws and be followed, no matter how pointless or ridiculous. >> These people suffer from a condition called stupidity. > > They are called criminals around here. Exactly. |