From: dene on

"R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message
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> On 2010-01-20 14:45:13 -0500, Howard Brazee said:
>
> > On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:37:09 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr
> > <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:
> >
> >> With respect to reality, about 85% or so of Americans have health
> >> insurance, and about that same number, 85% are happy with it. About
> >> 10% or so can afford health insurance but choose not to buy it,
> >> leaving about 5% or so who want the insurance but can't afford it. So
> >> how much do we sell out the interests of the 95% for the sake of 5%?
> >> If *YOU* want health insurance, *YOU* can buy it. Who else is supposed
> >> to pay for your insurance?
> >
> > Don't forget that the 10% without health insurance get treated anyway
> > when they need expensive care, and the hospitals include their costs
> > in what they charge the rest of us.
>
> This is one of the great myths out there.
>
> Do a little digging. You'll find that the only way it ever happens is
> if the person first divests himself of all his assets. ALL his assets.
> Home. Car. Belongings. EVERYTHING. Only then will they take you.
> You have to be completely destitute before the city (or county)
> hospital will take you. And there are plenty of other hospitals that
> simply won't.

Name the hospital that turns away people at the door.

While you are at it, explain why this person doesn't have health insurance
or public assistance? Do some digging of your own instead of repeating
liberal rhetoric. The answer is quite common and simple. They were rolling
the dice and lost.

> Meanwhile, if a person is in need of a transplant, I'm not sure exactly
> how he's going to go through the process of selling everything he owns
> on eBay and moving (to live under a bridge?) just so the hospital will
> take him.
>
> You guys who keep using this argument don't know the first thing about it.

People who render service have the right to be paid for their services.

-Greg


From: Chris Bellomy on
dene wrote, On 1/20/10 4:59 PM:
> "Chris Bellomy" <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> wrote in message
> news:4JudnbknW9QiG8rWnZ2dnUVZ_gRi4p2d(a)supernews.com...
>> dene wrote, On 1/20/10 4:37 PM:
>>> "Chris Bellomy" <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> wrote in message
>>> news:_oednTqscIKbHMrWnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d(a)supernews.com...
>>>> R&B wrote, On 1/20/10 4:10 PM:
>>>>
>>>>> I have no respect for Dene because he shows no one else any respect.
>>>> He deserves a baseline of consideration for being a fellow
>>>> human being. This being MLK week, let me remind you:
>>>>
>>>> "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do
>>>> that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
>>>>
>>>> I'll add that the only time those words have real meaning
>>>> is when they are uncomfortable and/or difficult. That's
>>>> where the rubber meets the road. So even when I chastise
>>>> Dene, I do it out of hope that he'll let go of pettiness
>>>> and get a sense of perspective. It's a moral imperative
>>>> to me that I do. YMMV and probably does.
>>>>
>>>> cb
>>> And since you do it respectfully, sometimes I listen.
>>>
>>> I follow a simple set of rules in here. If you want to discuss issues,
> I'm
>>> game. Throw in demeaning insults, then I return fire.
>> Why?
>>
>> Seriously, dude, that's the ethos of a teenager. Rise above.
>
> In Usenet?? It's jungle rules, baby! Besides, returning fire can be kinda
> fun.

Yeah, ok. But work on your skills. Make it as fun to read
as it must be to write, otherwise you're just strokin'
yourself, you know?

cb
From: dene on

"R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message
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> On 2010-01-20 15:42:22 -0500, MNMikeW said:
>

> >> There isn't a hell hot enough for the likes of you. But I'm betting
> >> one > is being prepared for you right now.
> >>
> >> Randy
> >>
> > You do realize your credibility goes right down the toilet with your
> > textbook rants like this. Not that you had much to begin with.
>
>
> I stand by every word of it.
>
> Insurance companies are responsible for more American deaths each year
> than the terrorists. Through recission, exclusion and discriminatory
> policies that prevent Americans from receiving the health care the
> need, companies like Aetna, United, Blue Cross and the rest render
> "death panel" decisions that play a direct role in more American deaths
> each year than you can attribute to terrorists. That's an irrefutable
> fact, sir.
>
> But at least the terrorists do it for some religious belief, however
> perverted it might be. Insurance companies do it for money.
>
> The fact that you don't find such a thing reprehensible tells me all I
> need to know about you.
>
> Randy

Again....pure unsubstantiated, irrational rhetoric. It's like saying all
cops are bad because there are a few bad ones out there. The fact is that
virtually all claims are paid without question, which is precisely why the
vast majority of Americans are happy with their plan and want to keep it as
is. They just want lower premiums.

Frankly, your rant is hypocritical. By your own admission, you choose to
not buy health insurance, therefore becoming a problem instead of being part
of a solution. Who is going to pay for your stroke, i.e. your decision to
overeat and hyperventilate? Me....along with millions of responsible,
insured Americans. You have no business criticizing any insurance company
or those who are willing to provide insurance for themselves, dependents, or
employees.

-Greg


From: Moderate on

"Chris Bellomy" <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> wrote in message
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> dene wrote, On 1/20/10 4:59 PM:
>> "Chris Bellomy" <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> wrote in message
>> news:4JudnbknW9QiG8rWnZ2dnUVZ_gRi4p2d(a)supernews.com...
>>> dene wrote, On 1/20/10 4:37 PM:
>>>> "Chris Bellomy" <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> wrote in message
>>>> news:_oednTqscIKbHMrWnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d(a)supernews.com...
>>>>> R&B wrote, On 1/20/10 4:10 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no respect for Dene because he shows no one else any respect.
>>>>> He deserves a baseline of consideration for being a fellow
>>>>> human being. This being MLK week, let me remind you:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do
>>>>> that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll add that the only time those words have real meaning
>>>>> is when they are uncomfortable and/or difficult. That's
>>>>> where the rubber meets the road. So even when I chastise
>>>>> Dene, I do it out of hope that he'll let go of pettiness
>>>>> and get a sense of perspective. It's a moral imperative
>>>>> to me that I do. YMMV and probably does.
>>>>>
>>>>> cb
>>>> And since you do it respectfully, sometimes I listen.
>>>>
>>>> I follow a simple set of rules in here. If you want to discuss issues,
>> I'm
>>>> game. Throw in demeaning insults, then I return fire.
>>> Why?
>>>
>>> Seriously, dude, that's the ethos of a teenager. Rise above.
>>
>> In Usenet?? It's jungle rules, baby! Besides, returning fire can be
>> kinda
>> fun.
>
> Yeah, ok. But work on your skills. Make it as fun to read
> as it must be to write, otherwise you're just strokin'
> yourself, you know?
>
> cb

Good point. R&B's posts are certainly fun to read.


From: bknight on
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:42:07 -0600, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc>
wrote:

>dene wrote, On 1/20/10 4:37 PM:
>> "Chris Bellomy" <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> wrote in message
>> news:_oednTqscIKbHMrWnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d(a)supernews.com...
>>> R&B wrote, On 1/20/10 4:10 PM:
>>>
>>>> I have no respect for Dene because he shows no one else any respect.
>>> He deserves a baseline of consideration for being a fellow
>>> human being. This being MLK week, let me remind you:
>>>
>>> "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do
>>> that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
>>>
>>> I'll add that the only time those words have real meaning
>>> is when they are uncomfortable and/or difficult. That's
>>> where the rubber meets the road. So even when I chastise
>>> Dene, I do it out of hope that he'll let go of pettiness
>>> and get a sense of perspective. It's a moral imperative
>>> to me that I do. YMMV and probably does.
>>>
>>> cb
>>
>> And since you do it respectfully, sometimes I listen.
>>
>> I follow a simple set of rules in here. If you want to discuss issues, I'm
>> game. Throw in demeaning insults, then I return fire.
>
>Why?
>
>Seriously, dude, that's the ethos of a teenager. Rise above.
>
>cb
You expect him to rise above something he's enjoyed every minute of?
LOL
From: "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 20:55:49 -0700

> "Ben" <komb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>

>, I'll cop to some
>meaningless confrontations. However, when you are commonly known as
>"The Turd" anywhere in life, by anyone, your track record can't be too
>impressive. Your history here, and it is searchable, is rococo with
>bitter, prolonged, and often downright nasty insult, innuendo and
>accusation. So, yeah, I'm no babe in the woods, Greg, but when it
>comes to "silly fights" you're the undisputed heavyweight champ.

----------------------------------------------------

Yep! I'll cop to the above. I've enjoyed just about every minute of

it.