From: BAR on
In article <4b56f5a5$0$4969$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>
> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:00:19 -0800, dene wrote:
> > "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message
> > news:2010012001542916807-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom...
> >
> >> Dene, the majority of voting Americans voted for Obama's agenda a
> >> year ago. Their disapproval now is not over how far-reaching his
> >> agenda has been. They voted for it. They voted for SWEEPING CHANGE.
> >> Their disapproval is over how little the Dems have been able to get
> >> done with the obstructionist right standing in their way at every
> >> step, and how watered-down the health care bill has become.
> >
> > So you are among the small number of loons who do not think Obama is
> > left enough. No surprise. He's surrounded himself with your types
> > and they are completely out of touch with the pulse of America.
> >
> > Yes....America voted for change, but not change that involves big
> > government, higher taxes, bailouts, and deficits. America is voting
> > for change once again and this time, it will be liberal Dems who get
> > the boot, starting with Reid.
>
> I think Randy is right about this. People did vote for sweeping change,
> especially for things like genuine healthcare reform. But the reality of
> Washington is that you cannot get something without giving something
> else away, and inevitably legislation becomes clogged with pork and
> give-aways to special interests. The current healthcare reform bill has
> been watered down to the extent that nobody likes it.
>
> The issue is not Obama. The issue is systemic corruption and a
> government more beholden to special interest groups than it is to
> voters.

The issue is corruption. When you rail about the evil corrupt
Republicans and how they are in bed with he evil corrupt corporations
you turn the spotlights onto yourself and you turn up their intensity.

Obama never put for a detailed plan for health care reform, he let Nancy
Pelosi write the bill with her cronies in the house. This is why when
you asked Obama about specific generalities he looked like a deer caught
in the head-light. As soon as Pelosi and crew started writing the bill
the corruption began. Then when the bill was flipped over the wall to
the Senate the real corruption began when Reid started buying off
Senators. At this time Obama still had no clue as to what was in the
bill.

The people have rejected Obama because he is a tool who is out-of touch,
most likely doesn't know the cost of a loaf of bread or a gallon of
milk, and couldn't care less. Obama is only interested in paying off the
unions and others who he feels got him elected. What Obama doesn't
realize is that he is screwing the millions who actually believed in
what he was saying on the campaign trail and who actually voted for him.
They are the disillusioned masses, the people who are on the
unemployment line with no jobs available and nobody working to create
more jobs. Just some guy in the Oval office who is taking his wife out
to a Broadway show in NYC, spending a couple of weeks in Hawaii and
playing golf every chance he gets, what is it 26 rounds since he became
President.

Obama's agenda is not for the people it is to squelch the people.



From: BAR on
In article <xNC5n.1378$ZN1.1197(a)newsfe05.iad>, dontwrite(a)gmail.com
says...
>
> One always hears about not spending our children's
> inheritance ... but that doesn't help much when some
> kids and their parents are going to die because they
> don't get health care. And don't talk about that BS of
> getting medical care in Emergency Rooms. We've
> had more than one "death" here in my town because
> of crowded and inept ERs. One in the last two months -
> a woman who waited for 6 hours for help with abdominal
> pain. The other patients asked for her to be put first
> because she was in so much pain. She left and delivered
> a dead baby a few hours later after trying to get into
> another hospital's ER. Come on. Do you really think
> ER medicine is a replacement for regular medical care?

When people use the ER to get their sniffles treated you encounter this
problem. The only way to resolve this issue is to charge them 2 to 3
times what it would have cost them to go to a regular doctors office or
a doc-in-a-box.


From: Howard Brazee on
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 01:54:29 -0500, "R&B"
<none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote:

>Dene, the majority of voting Americans voted for Obama's agenda a year
>ago. Their disapproval now is not over how far-reaching his agenda has
>been. They voted for it. They voted for SWEEPING CHANGE. Their
>disapproval is over how little the Dems have been able to get done with
>the obstructionist right standing in their way at every step, and how
>watered-down the health care bill has become.


True. But don't underestimate how much voters support image. The
person who appears to be a "regular guy" almost always beats the
person with the elitist image.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Moderate on

"BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.25c0bd1cf521fc33989a3c(a)news.giganews.com...
> In article <7rn9q2FdciU1(a)mid.individual.net>, dene(a)remove.ipns.com
> says...
>>
>> The Bay State Independents have spoken, along with some disgruntled Dems.
>> This is a huge victory for America's center-right majority, who want
>> common
>> sense change; not Commie, borrow from the Chinese, change.
>>
>> Americans are tired of big government and it's never ceasing appetite for
>> more of our's and our children's money.
>>
>> Wake up, Obama! Cya Reid.
>
> Brown should offer to give Obama a ride in his truck so that Obama can
> meet the real people of Mass. and the USA. You know get the view through
> the front windshield rather than from the back seat of a limo.

It is safer to ride with Brown than Kennedy.


From: Moderate on

"gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xNC5n.1378$ZN1.1197(a)newsfe05.iad...
> One always hears about not spending our children's
> inheritance ... but that doesn't help much when some
> kids and their parents are going to die because they
> don't get health care. And don't talk about that BS of
> getting medical care in Emergency Rooms. We've
> had more than one "death" here in my town because
> of crowded and inept ERs. One in the last two months -
> a woman who waited for 6 hours for help with abdominal
> pain. The other patients asked for her to be put first
> because she was in so much pain. She left and delivered
> a dead baby a few hours later after trying to get into
> another hospital's ER. Come on. Do you really think
> ER medicine is a replacement for regular medical care?

What part of Obama's plan improves the ER situation?