From: dene on

<assimilate(a)borg.org> wrote in message
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>
> On 20-Jan-2010, "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote:
>
> > This from the guy who works in the health insurance field, and who
> > cares not one iota about helping people who need health care, but
> > rather, cares only about company profits, and wouldn't think twice
> > about denying health care to anyone if it cut into his own pension.
>
> This shows again that you don't have a clue.
>
> --
> bill-o

I didn't catch this the first time. I do not derive a pension or salary
from any insurance company. I'm completely independent, 1099 broker.
Furthermore, when an insurance company denies one of my applicants, we both
lose.

As you said, Randy doesn't have a clue. I wonder if he had the sense to
call a broker to get himself a plan.

-Greg


From: Jack Hollis on
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:31:31 -0800, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com>
wrote:

>> Here in the Atlanta area, everyone knows that if you're uninsured and
>> need a procedure, the only place you can go is the city hospital (I
>> forget the name of it -- it's downtown).
>
>Apparently this hospital is violating the law.

One of the ways that hospitals avoid the mandate to provide emergency
care to anyone who shows up is to not have an ER. Hundreds and
hundreds of ERs have closed since the law was passed. It's estimated
that a bit over half of the patients that show up at an ER will never
pay for their services. BTW, this is also one of the reasons that
some people don't buy health insurance. They know that they can get
health care and not have to pay for it. You can keep going back to
the same hospital that you owe money to over and over and they still
can't refuse to treat you.
From: BAR on
In article <1qpgl5h5ekq76b8at5mi0gkldo4suv6dib(a)4ax.com>,
xsleeper(a)aol.com says...
>
> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:31:31 -0800, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> Here in the Atlanta area, everyone knows that if you're uninsured and
> >> need a procedure, the only place you can go is the city hospital (I
> >> forget the name of it -- it's downtown).
> >
> >Apparently this hospital is violating the law.
>
> One of the ways that hospitals avoid the mandate to provide emergency
> care to anyone who shows up is to not have an ER. Hundreds and
> hundreds of ERs have closed since the law was passed. It's estimated
> that a bit over half of the patients that show up at an ER will never
> pay for their services. BTW, this is also one of the reasons that
> some people don't buy health insurance. They know that they can get
> health care and not have to pay for it. You can keep going back to
> the same hospital that you owe money to over and over and they still
> can't refuse to treat you.

ERs have become nothing more than money sucking holes that will drag an
otherwise profitable and useful hospital into bankruptcy.

Getting people to stop going to the ER for free care of their sniffles,
headaches or head colds is the answer.
From: Jack Hollis on
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:12:08 -0800, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com>
wrote:

>> So don't tell me this stuff doesn't happen. Insurance companies
>> themselves have admitted they do.
>
>It's never happened in my experience and I've seen my clients have some
>hefty claims. My best friend's premature baby spent two months in ICY
>prenatal, costing 800k, before dying. The insurance company paid it all
>without blinking. I can cite heart attacks, strokes, long term cancer
>illnesses, etc. All paid in full.

As my wife says, you are covered for what your policy says you're
covered for. If you need a heart transplant and you insurance doesn't
cover transplants the insurance company has every right to deny the
claim. If you lie on your application, the insurance company has
every right to cancel your policy.

Every state has insurance regulators who will mediate any dispute
between a company and a policyholder.
From: Jack Hollis on
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:16:51 -0500, "R&B"
<none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote:

> I fully expect my hospital bills will amount to a
>second car payment I'll have to endure for a couple years. I'm fine
>with that.

I admire that you intend to pay your hospital bill. You know that no
one will do anything about it if you don't.