From: Jack Hollis on
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:59:24 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

>> One of the ways that hospitals avoid the mandate to provide emergency
>> care to anyone who shows up is to not have an ER. Hundreds and
>> hundreds of ERs have closed since the law was passed. It's estimated
>> that a bit over half of the patients that show up at an ER will never
>> pay for their services. BTW, this is also one of the reasons that
>> some people don't buy health insurance. They know that they can get
>> health care and not have to pay for it. You can keep going back to
>> the same hospital that you owe money to over and over and they still
>> can't refuse to treat you.
>
>ERs have become nothing more than money sucking holes that will drag an
>otherwise profitable and useful hospital into bankruptcy.
>
>Getting people to stop going to the ER for free care of their sniffles,
>headaches or head colds is the answer.

That would involve breaking the law.

I'm surprised that no hospital has challenged the law. It basically
orders what are, in some cases, private businesses to provide services
for free. It's like ordering businesses that sell food to give food
for free to anyone who is hungry and can't pay for it.
From: William Clark on
In article <7rs1obFu2iU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:

> "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
> news:clark-75B568.16482621012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>
> > Which is precisely what makes insurance an idiotic vehicle for
> > determining health care. Health care should be determined by what is
> > wrong with you that needs treating, not the fine print in some
> > unreadable insurance policy. What next "I'm sorry, I can't have kidney
> > failure today, my insurance company won't allow it?" This is simply nuts.
>
> Nor does it happen with mainstream policies from a mainstream insurance
> company. Just because Obama bought a beer for a racist professor doesn't
> mean all professors are racist....or beer drinkers.
>
> You should really stick to what you know....
>
> -Greg

I see, just because you talk this loony nonsense, it doesn't mean that
all Republicans are loons. Or are they ?
From: Howard Brazee on
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:14:05 -0600, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
wrote:

>You seem to forget the the government works for us. America dosent want this
>kind of change. But unlike the Dems, the Repubs. actually listened to their
>constituents.

America voted for *real* change.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:48:26 -0500, William Clark
<clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote:

>Which is precisely what makes insurance an idiotic vehicle for
>determining health care. Health care should be determined by what is
>wrong with you that needs treating, not the fine print in some
>unreadable insurance policy. What next "I'm sorry, I can't have kidney
>failure today, my insurance company won't allow it?" This is simply nuts.

On the other hand, half of the money spent on medical care is on
people who die in 6 months anyway. We can save lots of money by
spending our money on universal care, but only for people who are
likely to survive a year.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: William Clark on
In article <vbthl55s3k72de3131hts63lp1s5pqaddk(a)4ax.com>,
Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:48:26 -0500, William Clark
> <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>
> >Which is precisely what makes insurance an idiotic vehicle for
> >determining health care. Health care should be determined by what is
> >wrong with you that needs treating, not the fine print in some
> >unreadable insurance policy. What next "I'm sorry, I can't have kidney
> >failure today, my insurance company won't allow it?" This is simply nuts.
>
> On the other hand, half of the money spent on medical care is on
> people who die in 6 months anyway. We can save lots of money by
> spending our money on universal care, but only for people who are
> likely to survive a year.

Indeed, Bertie would be for triaging those people out onto the street -
they cost him money to keep alive. Unless, of course, it was him.