From: assimilate on

On 21-Jan-2010, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> wrote:

> > When it comes to uniting the American people, nobody beats Obama. He has
> > singlehandly united the country....against him.
>
> Hooboy. That's some fine, nuanced analysis!

I got yer nuance right here buddy! :-D

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bill-o
From: assimilate on

On 21-Jan-2010, Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote:

> >Which is precisely what makes insurance an idiotic vehicle for
> >determining health care. Health care should be determined by what is
> >wrong with you that needs treating, not the fine print in some
> >unreadable insurance policy. What next "I'm sorry, I can't have kidney
> >failure today, my insurance company won't allow it?" This is simply nuts.
>
> On the other hand, half of the money spent on medical care is on
> people who die in 6 months anyway. We can save lots of money by
> spending our money on universal care, but only for people who are
> likely to survive a year.

so you are for death panels?

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bill-o
From: dene on

"Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
news:vbthl55s3k72de3131hts63lp1s5pqaddk(a)4ax.com...
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:48:26 -0500, William Clark
> <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>
> >Which is precisely what makes insurance an idiotic vehicle for
> >determining health care. Health care should be determined by what is
> >wrong with you that needs treating, not the fine print in some
> >unreadable insurance policy. What next "I'm sorry, I can't have kidney
> >failure today, my insurance company won't allow it?" This is simply nuts.
>
> On the other hand, half of the money spent on medical care is on
> people who die in 6 months anyway. We can save lots of money by
> spending our money on universal care, but only for people who are
> likely to survive a year.

Howard makes a valid point. I spoke to my ex-father-in-law the other day.
He's 88 and his first knee replacement went south, almost killing him. He's
recovering and now getting set for another one.

Medicare is paying it.

-Greg


From: Howard Brazee on
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 05:03:12 GMT, assimilate(a)borg.org wrote:

>> On the other hand, half of the money spent on medical care is on
>> people who die in 6 months anyway. We can save lots of money by
>> spending our money on universal care, but only for people who are
>> likely to survive a year.
>
>so you are for death panels?

I don't know what I want here.

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than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

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From: BAR on
In article <e9thl5pbmmrgho2o8ki37bteugonue2pqo(a)4ax.com>,
howard(a)brazee.net says...
>
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:14:05 -0600, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >You seem to forget the the government works for us. America dosent want this
> >kind of change. But unlike the Dems, the Repubs. actually listened to their
> >constituents.
>
> America voted for *real* change.

What "real change" did Obama enumerate during the campaign that he has
implemented? The change Obama has implemented is not the "real change"
the people of the US wanted, expected and will put up with. The results
in Virginia, New Jersey and Mass. have borne this out.