From: Moderate on

"William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
news:clark-E2C88C.14181927012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> In article <7sbds3F8vqU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
>
>> "Dinosaur_Sr" <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote in message
>> news:9997bb8b-6499-482d-9e17-c3be2bbe16b7(a)c4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 27, 9:32 am, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
>> state.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > No, because this is not an issue about "bets". It seems to me that you
>> > are trying this as a crude attempt to frighten off any scrutiny of your
>> > bogus claim to have a) attended any materials science meetings, and b)
>> > to have " at least one material sciences publication in a well
>> > respected
>> > symposium". I simply don't believe you, and in the world of academia
>> > such differences of opinion are discussed in the open, with no talk of
>> > "bets".
>> >
>> > So, are you going to abide by the standards of academia that you claim
>> > to uphold so strongly? My guess is you won't.
>>
>> Reality is in no way subservient to what you choose to believe. There
>> is no opinion at issue here, only a point of fact. Either I have or
>> have not published in the area of materials science, and the fact is
>> or isn't independent of what you think.
>>
>> I, of course, and as any rational person would expect, could care less
>> what you think on the point of fact.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> To hell with the $5 Rob. Just cite your facts so it will shut Billy
>> up...for about 10 mins.
>>
>> -Greg
>
> For once I absolutely agree with you!

How much would it cost to put you on a permanent sabbatical from RSG?


From: William Clark on
In article <7sbk4kFggeU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:

> "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
> news:clark-7E40D7.14134427012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > In article <7sbdv4F9egU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
> > > news:ib1vl51u8hmf6i81s1sckv6ju4mnvgh9kh(a)4ax.com...
> > > > On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:13:23 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr
> > > > <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Another nice thing about the Canadian system is that if Family doc
> > > > >decides you need to see a specialist, you have to get the referral
> > > > >from family doc. You don't get to choose to see a specialist if you
> > > > >want, only if family doc says it's OK, and then only a specialist of
> > > > >family docs choosing!
> > > >
> > > > Hey, that's what *my* insurance company does!
> > >
> > > That's the plan you chose, Howard. You can always change to a plan that
> > > doesn't have this requirement. In Canada, you do not have this option.
> > >
> > > -Greg
> >
> > Indeed, Howard, your option is to pay higher insurance premiums. The
> > Canadians don't have that one, either.
>
> Uh Billy. Stick to what you know. Howard is on medicare. The flexible
> plans to do cost anymore than the HMO plan he describes.
>
> -Greg

So you agree with my point. If you want to be able to go directly to a
specialist, you have to pay higher insurance premiums.
From: William Clark on
In article <hjq5vh$bn9$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
"Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:

> "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
> news:clark-E2C88C.14181927012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > In article <7sbds3F8vqU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Dinosaur_Sr" <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote in message
> >> news:9997bb8b-6499-482d-9e17-c3be2bbe16b7(a)c4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Jan 27, 9:32 am, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
> >> state.edu> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > No, because this is not an issue about "bets". It seems to me that you
> >> > are trying this as a crude attempt to frighten off any scrutiny of your
> >> > bogus claim to have a) attended any materials science meetings, and b)
> >> > to have " at least one material sciences publication in a well
> >> > respected
> >> > symposium". I simply don't believe you, and in the world of academia
> >> > such differences of opinion are discussed in the open, with no talk of
> >> > "bets".
> >> >
> >> > So, are you going to abide by the standards of academia that you claim
> >> > to uphold so strongly? My guess is you won't.
> >>
> >> Reality is in no way subservient to what you choose to believe. There
> >> is no opinion at issue here, only a point of fact. Either I have or
> >> have not published in the area of materials science, and the fact is
> >> or isn't independent of what you think.
> >>
> >> I, of course, and as any rational person would expect, could care less
> >> what you think on the point of fact.
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> To hell with the $5 Rob. Just cite your facts so it will shut Billy
> >> up...for about 10 mins.
> >>
> >> -Greg
> >
> > For once I absolutely agree with you!
>
> How much would it cost to put you on a permanent sabbatical from RSG?

More than you can dream of.
From: dene on

"William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:wclark2-3A8318.18075427012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...



> > > Indeed, Howard, your option is to pay higher insurance premiums. The
> > > Canadians don't have that one, either.
> >
> > Uh Billy. Stick to what you know. Howard is on medicare. The flexible
> > plans to do cost anymore than the HMO plan he describes.
> >
> > -Greg
>
> So you agree with my point. If you want to be able to go directly to a
> specialist, you have to pay higher insurance premiums.

Not at all. Fee for service plans (PFFS) and Preferred Providers Plans
(PPO) are often cheaper than the HMO medicare plan Howard describes.
Neither require a referral to a specialist. The same is often true in the
individual and group market.

-Greg


From: Moderate on

"William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:wclark2-30E6AB.18082727012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> In article <hjq5vh$bn9$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
>
>> "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
>> news:clark-E2C88C.14181927012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>> > In article <7sbds3F8vqU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
>> > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Dinosaur_Sr" <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:9997bb8b-6499-482d-9e17-c3be2bbe16b7(a)c4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>> >> On Jan 27, 9:32 am, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
>> >> state.edu> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > No, because this is not an issue about "bets". It seems to me that
>> >> > you
>> >> > are trying this as a crude attempt to frighten off any scrutiny of
>> >> > your
>> >> > bogus claim to have a) attended any materials science meetings, and
>> >> > b)
>> >> > to have " at least one material sciences publication in a well
>> >> > respected
>> >> > symposium". I simply don't believe you, and in the world of academia
>> >> > such differences of opinion are discussed in the open, with no talk
>> >> > of
>> >> > "bets".
>> >> >
>> >> > So, are you going to abide by the standards of academia that you
>> >> > claim
>> >> > to uphold so strongly? My guess is you won't.
>> >>
>> >> Reality is in no way subservient to what you choose to believe. There
>> >> is no opinion at issue here, only a point of fact. Either I have or
>> >> have not published in the area of materials science, and the fact is
>> >> or isn't independent of what you think.
>> >>
>> >> I, of course, and as any rational person would expect, could care less
>> >> what you think on the point of fact.
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> To hell with the $5 Rob. Just cite your facts so it will shut Billy
>> >> up...for about 10 mins.
>> >>
>> >> -Greg
>> >
>> > For once I absolutely agree with you!
>>
>> How much would it cost to put you on a permanent sabbatical from RSG?
>
> More than you can dream of.

I win!

I had a side bet that you would over estimate your own value.