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From: Alan Baker on 29 Jan 2010 15:00 In article <7sfihqF3fkU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:alangbaker-6455D6.22344128012010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > In article <4b627a80$0$30041$882e0bbb(a)news.ThunderNews.com>, > > assimilate(a)borg.org wrote: > > > > > On 28-Jan-2010, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > However, with this 12% sales tax along with your other taxes, cost of > > > > housing, how can you say it's cheaper to live there? > > > > > > > > > > http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2010/01/26/consumer-home-affordability.html > > > > > > it isn't > > > > Yes, Bill: one of the most beautiful cities in the world with limited > > land because of its setting between the mountains and the sea has high > > prices for housing... > > > > ...because demand is high. > > It's not a city like Vancouver or Victoria but the nicest Canadian town I've > been to is Sydney, B.C. on Vancouver Island. I'd summer there in a > heartbeat. If you like that, you should try the Gulf Islands... -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: dene on 29 Jan 2010 17:48 "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote in message news:hjvegn$muq$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > > "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message > news:clark-6C0474.14035029012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > In article > > <b2e47378-cd18-4e37-bdb4-8a5b7dfa3e75(a)u26g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, > > Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: > > > >> On Jan 29, 10:35 am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > >> > On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:34:53 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur Sr > >> > > >> > <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > >> > >> Plans where you have to pay extra to see a doctor outside of the > >> > >> plan's > >> > >> approved network. Plans where you have to pay extra if you don't > >> > >> want to > >> > >> have to go through a family doctor in order to see a specialist. And > >> > >> so > >> > >> on. > >> > > >> > >A very good point. In the US, you pay extra to see a doctor outside a > >> > >network. In Canada, you are restricted to the one doctor who has > >> > >accepted you as a patient; period. You are limited to that person's > >> > >knowledge and skills; period. > >> > > >> > Certainly Canadians can spend their own money to see US physicians, so > >> > your statement isn't 100% correct. Are all Canadian physicians > >> > limited to only treating those patients assigned to them by the state? > >> > >> Canadians living in Canada do not have access to the quality of care > >> Americans have in the US. That Canadians are free to access the US > >> system, and do so because of shortcomings in the Canadian system is > >> further damnation of the Canadian system. > > > > Then how come they live longer? Oh, the irony! > > I suppose it has something to do with the ethic percentages of the two > countries. Life expectancies of different ethnic groups vary. The United > States has a higher percentage of ethnic people whose average life > expectancy is lower. > > It is more likely genetics than irony. That's an interesting thought. I wonder what results would be if one compared Canadians to "European-Americans." Wouldn't surprise me if it's similar. -Greg
From: Jim Lovejoy on 29 Jan 2010 21:41 Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in news:alangbaker-3D265D.12005129012010(a)news.shawcable.com: > In article <7sfihqF3fkU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message >> news:alangbaker-6455D6.22344128012010(a)news.shawcable.com... >> > In article <4b627a80$0$30041$882e0bbb(a)news.ThunderNews.com>, >> > assimilate(a)borg.org wrote: >> > >> > > On 28-Jan-2010, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > > However, with this 12% sales tax along with your other taxes, >> > > > cost of housing, how can you say it's cheaper to live there? >> > > >> > > >> > > >> http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2010/01/26/consumer-home-affordabilit >> y.html >> > > >> > > it isn't >> > >> > Yes, Bill: one of the most beautiful cities in the world with >> > limited land because of its setting between the mountains and the >> > sea has high prices for housing... >> > >> > ...because demand is high. >> >> It's not a city like Vancouver or Victoria but the nicest Canadian >> town I've been to is Sydney, B.C. on Vancouver Island. I'd summer >> there in a heartbeat. > > If you like that, you should try the Gulf Islands... > The San Juan Islands are the equal of the Gulf Islands, even the same number of golf courses. (4 on each island group).
From: Carbon on 29 Jan 2010 22:16 On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:34:53 -0800, Dinosaur_Sr wrote: > On Jan 29, 8:47 am, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- > state.edu> wrote: > >> Plans where you have to pay extra to see a doctor outside of the >> plan's approved network. Plans where you have to pay extra if you >> don't want to have to go through a family doctor in order to see a >> specialist. And so on. > > A very good point. In the US, you pay extra to see a doctor outside a > network. In Canada, you are restricted to the one doctor who has > accepted you as a patient; period. You are limited to that person's > knowledge and skills; period. You could always go to a clinic as an outpatient, or arrange for a family doctor to take you on. You can choose who you want to be your doctor. Possibly not the best arrangement if you're shopping for pills or something, but it works well enough in practice. I never had a problem.
From: Carbon on 29 Jan 2010 22:18
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:48:19 -0800, dene wrote: > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote in message > news:hjvegn$muq$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... >> "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in >> message >> news:clark-6C0474.14035029012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... >>> In article >>> <b2e47378-cd18-4e37-bdb4-8a5b7dfa3e75(a)u26g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, >>> Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Canadians living in Canada do not have access to the quality of >>>> care Americans have in the US. That Canadians are free to access >>>> the US system, and do so because of shortcomings in the Canadian >>>> system is further damnation of the Canadian system. >>> >>> Then how come they live longer? Oh, the irony! >> >> I suppose it has something to do with the ethic percentages of the >> two countries. Life expectancies of different ethnic groups vary. >> The United States has a higher percentage of ethnic people whose >> average life expectancy is lower. >> >> It is more likely genetics than irony. > > That's an interesting thought. I wonder what results would be if one > compared Canadians to "European-Americans." Wouldn't surprise me if > it's similar. It's a ridiculous thought. |