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From: dene on 30 Jan 2010 00:10 "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4b63a500$0$4939$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:48:19 -0800, dene wrote: > > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote in message > > news:hjvegn$muq$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > >> "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in > >> message > >> news:clark-6C0474.14035029012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > >>> In article > >>> <b2e47378-cd18-4e37-bdb4-8a5b7dfa3e75(a)u26g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, > >>> Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Canadians living in Canada do not have access to the quality of > >>>> care Americans have in the US. That Canadians are free to access > >>>> the US system, and do so because of shortcomings in the Canadian > >>>> system is further damnation of the Canadian system. > >>> > >>> Then how come they live longer? Oh, the irony! > >> > >> I suppose it has something to do with the ethic percentages of the > >> two countries. Life expectancies of different ethnic groups vary. > >> The United States has a higher percentage of ethnic people whose > >> average life expectancy is lower. > >> > >> It is more likely genetics than irony. > > > > That's an interesting thought. I wonder what results would be if one > > compared Canadians to "European-Americans." Wouldn't surprise me if > > it's similar. > > It's a ridiculous thought. Really. You don't think Euro-Americans outlive the minorities in the US? -Greg
From: dene on 30 Jan 2010 00:13 "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:alangbaker-3D265D.12005129012010(a)news.shawcable.com... > In article <7sfihqF3fkU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > news:alangbaker-6455D6.22344128012010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > In article <4b627a80$0$30041$882e0bbb(a)news.ThunderNews.com>, > > > assimilate(a)borg.org wrote: > > > > > > > On 28-Jan-2010, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > However, with this 12% sales tax along with your other taxes, cost of > > > > > housing, how can you say it's cheaper to live there? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2010/01/26/consumer-home-affordability.html > > > > > > > > it isn't > > > > > > Yes, Bill: one of the most beautiful cities in the world with limited > > > land because of its setting between the mountains and the sea has high > > > prices for housing... > > > > > > ...because demand is high. > > > > It's not a city like Vancouver or Victoria but the nicest Canadian town I've > > been to is Sydney, B.C. on Vancouver Island. I'd summer there in a > > heartbeat. > > If you like that, you should try the Gulf Islands... I hope to visit them in 5 years. I have a large map of them sitting in my office. Helps me focus on why I work and save. I've never seen the appeal of the San Juans. Way toooo many people. -Greg
From: Carbon on 30 Jan 2010 00:18 On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:10:41 -0800, dene wrote: > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4b63a500$0$4939$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:48:19 -0800, dene wrote: >>> "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote in message >>> news:hjvegn$muq$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... >>>> "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in >>>> message >>>> news:clark-6C0474.14035029012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... >>>>> In article <b2e47378-cd18-4e37- >>>>> bdb4-8a5b7dfa3e75(a)u26g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Dinosaur_Sr >>>>> <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Canadians living in Canada do not have access to the quality of >>>>>> care Americans have in the US. That Canadians are free to access >>>>>> the US system, and do so because of shortcomings in the Canadian >>>>>> system is further damnation of the Canadian system. >>>>> >>>>> Then how come they live longer? Oh, the irony! >>>> >>>> I suppose it has something to do with the ethic percentages of the >>>> two countries. Life expectancies of different ethnic groups vary. >>>> The United States has a higher percentage of ethnic people whose >>>> average life expectancy is lower. >>>> >>>> It is more likely genetics than irony. >>> >>> That's an interesting thought. I wonder what results would be if >>> one compared Canadians to "European-Americans." Wouldn't surprise >>> me if it's similar. >> >> It's a ridiculous thought. > > Really. You don't think Euro-Americans outlive the minorities in the > US? The question is why, not if. Statistically the poor don't live as long. Perhaps they don't have access to humane healthcare. Perhaps they have an incorrect skin color which impedes access to better schools and jobs. Etc.
From: Don Kirkman on 30 Jan 2010 02:06 It seems to me I heard somewhere that Carbon wrote in article <4b63c11e$0$15008$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>: >On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:10:41 -0800, dene wrote: >> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:4b63a500$0$4939$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:48:19 -0800, dene wrote: >>>> "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:hjvegn$muq$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... >>>>> "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in >>>>> message >>>>> news:clark-6C0474.14035029012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... >>>>>> In article <b2e47378-cd18-4e37- >>>>>> bdb4-8a5b7dfa3e75(a)u26g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Dinosaur_Sr >>>>>> <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: >>>>>>> Canadians living in Canada do not have access to the quality of >>>>>>> care Americans have in the US. That Canadians are free to access >>>>>>> the US system, and do so because of shortcomings in the Canadian >>>>>>> system is further damnation of the Canadian system. >>>>>> Then how come they live longer? Oh, the irony! >>>>> I suppose it has something to do with the ethic percentages of the >>>>> two countries. Life expectancies of different ethnic groups vary. >>>>> The United States has a higher percentage of ethnic people whose >>>>> average life expectancy is lower. >>>>> It is more likely genetics than irony. And there's nurture and nutrition into the bargain. Second generations in immigrant families typically have been healthier and bigger than the immigrant generation. This is also evidenced by that fact that the younger generation in Japan is taller now, after a couple of decades of emphasis on healthy nutrition, than the young generation was when I lived there forty years ago. -- Don Kirkman donsno2(a)charter.net
From: Alan Baker on 30 Jan 2010 03:55
In article <CJqdnZLBMZLSAf7WnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d(a)nventure.com>, Jim Lovejoy <nospam(a)devnull.spam> wrote: > Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in > news:alangbaker-3D265D.12005129012010(a)news.shawcable.com: > > > In article <7sfihqF3fkU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > >> news:alangbaker-6455D6.22344128012010(a)news.shawcable.com... > >> > In article <4b627a80$0$30041$882e0bbb(a)news.ThunderNews.com>, > >> > assimilate(a)borg.org wrote: > >> > > >> > > On 28-Jan-2010, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > However, with this 12% sales tax along with your other taxes, > >> > > > cost of housing, how can you say it's cheaper to live there? > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2010/01/26/consumer-home-affordabilit > >> y.html > >> > > > >> > > it isn't > >> > > >> > Yes, Bill: one of the most beautiful cities in the world with > >> > limited land because of its setting between the mountains and the > >> > sea has high prices for housing... > >> > > >> > ...because demand is high. > >> > >> It's not a city like Vancouver or Victoria but the nicest Canadian > >> town I've been to is Sydney, B.C. on Vancouver Island. I'd summer > >> there in a heartbeat. > > > > If you like that, you should try the Gulf Islands... > > > The San Juan Islands are the equal of the Gulf Islands, even the same > number of golf courses. (4 on each island group). It wasn't a competition in my mind. I have only been to Orcas Island in the San Juans, but I liked it fine. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> |