From: Howard Brazee on
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:36:10 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr
<frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:

>Africans are very genetically diverse. There is more genetic variation
>amongst Africans than all other humans combined, by a lot.

It's interesting that East Africa produces world class long distance
runners, and West Africa produces world class sprinters. Even when
those people have lived in American countries for generations.

I wonder what characteristics would be best for golfing.

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"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: William Clark on
In article <MPG.25ce142fd5c0b464989aea(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <wclark2-0C1BA2.09095230012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> >
> > In article <7sht23FovqU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4b63a500$0$4939$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> > > > On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:48:19 -0800, dene wrote:
> > > > > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:hjvegn$muq$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
> > > > >> "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in
> > > > >> message
> > > > >> news:clark-6C0474.14035029012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > > > >>> In article
> > > > >>> <b2e47378-cd18-4e37-bdb4-8a5b7dfa3e75(a)u26g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > >>> Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> Canadians living in Canada do not have access to the quality of
> > > > >>>> care Americans have in the US. That Canadians are free to access
> > > > >>>> the US system, and do so because of shortcomings in the Canadian
> > > > >>>> system is further damnation of the Canadian system.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Then how come they live longer? Oh, the irony!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I suppose it has something to do with the ethic percentages of the
> > > > >> two countries. Life expectancies of different ethnic groups vary.
> > > > >> The United States has a higher percentage of ethnic people whose
> > > > >> average life expectancy is lower.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It is more likely genetics than irony.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's an interesting thought. I wonder what results would be if one
> > > > > compared Canadians to "European-Americans." Wouldn't surprise me if
> > > > > it's similar.
> > > >
> > > > It's a ridiculous thought.
> > >
> > > Really. You don't think Euro-Americans outlive the minorities in the US?
> > >
> > > -Greg
> >
> > You mean blacks, of course. Spaniards outlive Americans, so it can't be
> > Hispanics.
>
> Show the data to support that Hispanics, specifically central American
> Hispanics outlive European-Americans?

Well, Spain, Portugal, and Puerto Rica are above the US, Mexico below.
So it can be genetic - it must be socio-economic. So it simply proves
the point that the poor, who can not afford health insurance, have their
life expectancy drastically reduced by living under the US health
insurance system.

Thank you for pointing that out.
From: William Clark on
In article <gj69m5hj5cm58a7rtc5ap1qtqglnhpd22d(a)4ax.com>,
Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:36:10 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr
> <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:
>
> >Africans are very genetically diverse. There is more genetic variation
> >amongst Africans than all other humans combined, by a lot.
>
> It's interesting that East Africa produces world class long distance
> runners, and West Africa produces world class sprinters. Even when
> those people have lived in American countries for generations.
>
> I wonder what characteristics would be best for golfing.

I think you will find that it is because it is East Africa that is more
mountainous (at least where people live) so running at altitude trains
those slow twitch muscles and aerobic capacity. I don't think it has as
much to do with genetics, as it does with tradition.
From: William Clark on
In article
<97da47aa-64be-4ce2-a30b-5e4a3914a0bb(a)r6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:

> On Jan 29, 2:56�pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> > "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
> >
> > news:clark-6C0474.14035029012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >
> >
> >
> > > In article
> > > <b2e47378-cd18-4e37-bdb4-8a5b7dfa3...(a)u26g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> > > Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote:
> >
> > >> On Jan 29, 10:35 am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote:
> > >> > On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:34:53 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur Sr
> >
> > >> > <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote:
> > >> > >> Plans where you have to pay extra to see a doctor outside of the
> > >> > >> plan's
> > >> > >> approved network. Plans where you have to pay extra if you don't
> > >> > >> want to
> > >> > >> have to go through a family doctor in order to see a specialist. And
> > >> > >> so
> > >> > >> on.
> >
> > >> > >A very good point. In the US, you pay extra to see a doctor outside a
> > >> > >network. In Canada, you are restricted to the one doctor who has
> > >> > >accepted you as a patient; period. You are limited to that person's
> > >> > >knowledge and skills; period.
> >
> > >> > Certainly Canadians can spend their own money to see US physicians, so
> > >> > your statement isn't 100% correct. Are all Canadian physicians
> > >> > limited to only treating those patients assigned to them by the state?
> >
> > >> Canadians living in Canada do not have access to the quality of care
> > >> Americans have in the US. That Canadians are free to access the US
> > >> system, and do so because of shortcomings in the Canadian system �is
> > >> further damnation of the Canadian system.
> >
> > > Then how come they live longer? Oh, the irony!
> >
> > I suppose it has something to do with the ethic percentages of the two
> > countries. �Life expectancies of different ethnic groups vary. �The United
> > States has a higher percentage of ethnic people whose average life
> > expectancy is lower.
> >
> > It is more likely genetics than irony.
>
> More diversity than anything else. There are structural social
> problems in the US though, like the nature of inner cities, urban
> nightmares, created by progressives, FWIW. Places like say France or
> say Sweden, or Germany, heavily discriminate against non French,
> Swedes, Germans, and one wonders if they include say Turks living in
> Germany in their data.

Your vast experience of, for example, Sweden is, what? The Swedish Chef
on the Muppet Show, perhaps? Have you ever even been there? This is more
BS pulled out of your a**.
From: William Clark on
In article
<c983b1ed-4491-489a-83a5-81dd66c80f73(a)k41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:

> On Jan 29, 2:47�pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
> state.edu> wrote:
> > In article
> > <408045d7-bc01-4ccf-a946-7e0616597...(a)r6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> > �Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote:
> > > On Jan 29, 9:58 am, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
> > > state.edu> wrote:
> > > > In article <MPG.25ccb4457acbf6f3989...(a)news.giganews.com>,
> >
> > > > BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > > > In article <bd2a7183-1bb3-45af-9786-e1c1ac0cb5c2
> > > > > @b10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, frostback2...(a)att.net says...
> >
> > > > > > The most interesting aspect of this is your great concern. IF you
> > > > > > take
> > > > > > the position that I have never published anything in the area of
> > > > > > materials science, you become, as a point of fact, a liar. It is
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > just a matter of being misinformed, because my CV was published
> > > > > > online
> > > > > > and available for many years, for anyone to see.
> >
> > > > > > What is more relevant is that your concern suggests that you are
> > > > > > unpublished, or publish little in the area, isn't it, and it
> > > > > > bothers
> > > > > > you because you think there is some sort of academic status
> > > > > > associated
> > > > > > with who employs you in this business, when in fact academic status
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > solely a function of your accomplishments.
> >
> > > > > > Now as I claim zero status as a materials scientist, and I claim
> > > > > > none,
> > > > > > it becomes a problem for you that I have published in the area,
> > > > > > because you want to claim some sort of status here, when you, like
> > > > > > I,
> > > > > > have none!
> >
> > > > > > In any event, the $5K bet is still open.
> >
> > > > > I have a $1US that says Billy doesn't take your bet.
> >
> > > > Damn right I am not. This is not an issue for "bets", this is about the
> > > > core of academic integrity. He is claiming to have attended meetings
> > > > and
> > > > published in a field where it is absolutely clear he has not. George
> > > > O'Leary lost his job for doing exactly the same thing, but I am sure
> > > > your wingnut double standards can find a way around that.
> >
> > > If claiming that you have done something you have not is a serious
> > > issue, then a false accusation of such should be equally serious,
> > > should it not? If so, then you should be fired.
> >
> > Well, given that publication records are the open currency of academia,
> > anyone who is unwilling to back up a claim like yours by showing them is
> > immediately suspect.
> >
> > Of course, you can clear it up right away, but each attempt to weasel
> > out of answering the question simply makes you look more and more guilty.
>
> You are right, it is completely open. If you care so much, you could
> look it up. In any event, a false accusation of misconduct should
> carry the same penalty for the accuser that a true accusation would
> for the accused, especially given that you can look it up....very
> easily, as you know.

As a matter of fact, Science Citation index comes up with eight
publications for you, not one of which comes anywhere even close to
materials science. I can give you their list, if you like.

So the evidence so far is 100% on my side. The ball is in your court to
show where this is incorrect.