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From: BAR on 31 Jan 2010 08:26 In article <wclark2-C43E1D.17084630012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > Well, Spain, Portugal, and Puerto Rica are above the US, Mexico below. > So it can be genetic - it must be socio-economic. So it simply proves > the point that the poor, who can not afford health insurance, have their > life expectancy drastically reduced by living under the US health > insurance system. > > Thank you for pointing that out. > I hate to point this out to you Billy but the people of Puerto Rico are US citizens.
From: BAR on 31 Jan 2010 08:56 In article <wclark2-B9FBD1.17231830012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > In article <MPG.25ce10a1523c71fb989ae8(a)news.giganews.com>, > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <clark-B79122.09584229012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... > > > > > > In article <MPG.25ccb4457acbf6f3989add(a)news.giganews.com>, > > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > > > In article <bd2a7183-1bb3-45af-9786-e1c1ac0cb5c2 > > > > @b10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, frostback2002(a)att.net says... > > > > > > > > > > The most interesting aspect of this is your great concern. IF you take > > > > > the position that I have never published anything in the area of > > > > > materials science, you become, as a point of fact, a liar. It is not > > > > > just a matter of being misinformed, because my CV was published online > > > > > and available for many years, for anyone to see. > > > > > > > > > > What is more relevant is that your concern suggests that you are > > > > > unpublished, or publish little in the area, isn't it, and it bothers > > > > > you because you think there is some sort of academic status associated > > > > > with who employs you in this business, when in fact academic status is > > > > > solely a function of your accomplishments. > > > > > > > > > > Now as I claim zero status as a materials scientist, and I claim none, > > > > > it becomes a problem for you that I have published in the area, > > > > > because you want to claim some sort of status here, when you, like I, > > > > > have none! > > > > > > > > > > In any event, the $5K bet is still open. > > > > > > > > I have a $1US that says Billy doesn't take your bet. > > > > > > Damn right I am not. This is not an issue for "bets", this is about the > > > core of academic integrity. He is claiming to have attended meetings and > > > published in a field where it is absolutely clear he has not. George > > > O'Leary lost his job for doing exactly the same thing, but I am sure > > > your wingnut double standards can find a way around that. > > > > If you are so cocksure you are right why not take the bet. You get $5K > > and you get to nail a college prof to the wall. "Dr." Phil Jones of > > UEA's CRU nailed himself without a bet. > > I have provided him with the evidence for free. I am not not taking his > money. Right. You have doubts and you don't want to lose the money and more of your credibility.
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 31 Jan 2010 11:15 On Jan 30, 1:54 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:32:10 -0800, Dinosaur_Sr wrote: > > On Jan 30, 12:18 am, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:10:41 -0800, dene wrote: > >>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > >>>news:4b63a500$0$4939$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >>>> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:48:19 -0800, dene wrote: > >>>>> "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote in message > >>>>>news:hjvegn$muq$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > >>>>>> "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in > >>>>>> message > >>>>>>news:clark-6C0474.14035029012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > >>>>>>> In article <b2e47378-cd18-4e37- > >>>>>>> bdb4-8a5b7dfa3...(a)u26g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Dinosaur_Sr > >>>>>>> <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> Canadians living in Canada do not have access to the quality of > >>>>>>>> care Americans have in the US. That Canadians are free to > >>>>>>>> access the US system, and do so because of shortcomings in the > >>>>>>>> Canadian system is further damnation of the Canadian system. > > >>>>>>> Then how come they live longer? Oh, the irony! > > >>>>>> I suppose it has something to do with the ethic percentages of > >>>>>> the two countries. Life expectancies of different ethnic groups > >>>>>> vary. The United States has a higher percentage of ethnic people > >>>>>> whose average life expectancy is lower. > > >>>>>> It is more likely genetics than irony. > > >>>>> That's an interesting thought. I wonder what results would be if > >>>>> one compared Canadians to "European-Americans." Wouldn't surprise > >>>>> me if it's similar. > > >>>> It's a ridiculous thought. > > >>> Really. You don't think Euro-Americans outlive the minorities in > >>> the US? > > >> The question is why, not if. Statistically the poor don't live as > >> long. Perhaps they don't have access to humane healthcare. Perhaps > >> they have an incorrect skin color which impedes access to better > >> schools and jobs. Etc. > > > People outside the system counted in Canada? Lots of people don't have > > a "family care physician". > > I was speaking about the US and what factors could be involved in the > lower average lifespan, such as selective access to healthcare, racism, > etc. To me, the word "genetics" is cover for racism. > > Even if they choose not to have a primary doctor, Canadians still have > access to healthcare with no upfront cost. Only in the same was as Americans do, through the emergency room. Americans have choices Canadians do not have, especially Americans who work for a living. There is nothing racists about genetics, except the fact that the notion of a "black race" has no foundation biologically. It is purely a social construct.
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 31 Jan 2010 11:21 On Jan 30, 3:47 pm, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:36:10 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr > > <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > >Africans are very genetically diverse. There is more genetic variation > >amongst Africans than all other humans combined, by a lot. > > It's interesting that East Africa produces world class long distance > runners, and West Africa produces world class sprinters. Even when > those people have lived in American countries for generations. > > I wonder what characteristics would be best for golfing. > > -- > "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, > than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace > to the legislature, and not to the executive department." > > - James Madison That's not how it works. Variation cuts all ways. The 100 people with the traits that could make them the fastest people in the world probably live in Africa, so do those with the traits to be the slowest. Environmental factors also play a role in such things. However, when it comes to things like say reaction to a drug, variation is variation, and Africans will be more variable in their responses as a point of fact and Caucasians won't, again as a point of fact, especially for drugs developed specifically for Caucasians.
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 31 Jan 2010 11:26
On Jan 30, 5:16 pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > In article <gj69m5hj5cm58a7rtc5ap1qtqglnhpd...(a)4ax.com>, > Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > > > On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:36:10 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr > > <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > > >Africans are very genetically diverse. There is more genetic variation > > >amongst Africans than all other humans combined, by a lot. > > > It's interesting that East Africa produces world class long distance > > runners, and West Africa produces world class sprinters. Even when > > those people have lived in American countries for generations. > > > I wonder what characteristics would be best for golfing. > > I think you will find that it is because it is East Africa that is more > mountainous (at least where people live) so running at altitude trains > those slow twitch muscles and aerobic capacity. I don't think it has as > much to do with genetics, as it does with tradition. No such thing as natural selection in Africa I suppose. This thing with sickle cell disease and malaria, just a spurious correlation. |