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From: dene on 31 Jan 2010 15:44 "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message news:wclark2-66BF08.12331731012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > In article <7skin0FknlU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > "Dinosaur_Sr" <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote in message > > news:97da47aa-64be-4ce2-a30b-5e4a3914a0bb(a)r6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > > On Jan 29, 2:56 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > > > "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message > > > > > > > > I suppose it has something to do with the ethic percentages of the two > > > countries. Life expectancies of different ethnic groups vary. The United > > > States has a higher percentage of ethnic people whose average life > > > expectancy is lower. > > > > > > It is more likely genetics than irony. > > > > More diversity than anything else. There are structural social > > problems in the US though, like the nature of inner cities, urban > > nightmares, created by progressives, FWIW. Places like say France or > > say Sweden, or Germany, heavily discriminate against non French, > > Swedes, Germans, and one wonders if they include say Turks living in > > Germany in their data. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > That's what came to my mind. It wasn't race in as much as it was lifestyle. > > Married men live longer than single men. Black men have a tendancy to be > > single vs Hispanic men. Calculate the life expectancy of the American > > Indians, particularily among the men where alcoholism is a pervasive > > problem. Throwing these factors into the mix, it could account to why > > America's life expectancy is lower than other countries. We have the right > > to be homeless, addicts without any assurance that society will rescue from > > you from it. Whereas, other countries coddle and tax their citizens more. > > And keep them alive longer. So what! I'd rather have freedom than live a couple of extra years in an overtaxed, socialist country. -Greg
From: BAR on 31 Jan 2010 16:08 In article <wclark2-B556B4.15381231012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > In article <MPG.25cfa9ff3a9664989af8(a)news.giganews.com>, > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <wclark2-DAADE6.12352231012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are so cocksure you are right why not take the bet. You get > > > > > > $5K > > > > > > and you get to nail a college prof to the wall. "Dr." Phil Jones of > > > > > > UEA's CRU nailed himself without a bet. > > > > > > > > > > I have provided him with the evidence for free. I am not not taking his > > > > > money. > > > > > > > > Right. You have doubts and you don't want to lose the money and more of > > > > your credibility. > > > > > > No, his is clearly already gone. Your stupid bet is just blowhard > > > posturing. > > > > You are bluster and blather. When it comes to putting yourself on the > > line you always run and hide. > > You really don't have a clue, do you, about the ethics of scholarship? > No one makes "bets", it is all out in the open. I don't hide behind some > on line name, for example, like you do. I expect Rob, as an academic, > not to claim he has published where he clearly has not, and to be open > about it. If he can't be trusted to tell the truth about his > publications, then none of their content can be trusted either. Billy you are the admitted liar. You got beaten, and badly, at your own semantics game.
From: Carbon on 31 Jan 2010 19:42 On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 08:17:50 -0800, Dinosaur_Sr wrote: > On Jan 30, 2:04 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > If you look at it from the point of view of what the govt provides, > then yes, Canada does a "better job". If you look at it from the point > of view of what is actually available, none compare to that of the US, > it is so far superior that it shames the rest of the world. Here, let me fix that up for you: If you look at it from the point of view of what the govt provides, then yes, Canada does a "better job". If you look at it from the point of view of what is actually available for the wealthy, none compare to that of the US for the wealthy, it is so far superior for the wealthy that it shames the US in the eyes of the rest of the world.
From: William Clark on 31 Jan 2010 20:15 In article <7sm85gFur8U1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > news:wclark2-66BF08.12331731012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > In article <7skin0FknlU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > > "Dinosaur_Sr" <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote in message > > > news:97da47aa-64be-4ce2-a30b-5e4a3914a0bb(a)r6g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > > > On Jan 29, 2:56 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > > > > "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in > message > > > > > > > > > > > I suppose it has something to do with the ethic percentages of the two > > > > countries. Life expectancies of different ethnic groups vary. The > United > > > > States has a higher percentage of ethnic people whose average life > > > > expectancy is lower. > > > > > > > > It is more likely genetics than irony. > > > > > > More diversity than anything else. There are structural social > > > problems in the US though, like the nature of inner cities, urban > > > nightmares, created by progressives, FWIW. Places like say France or > > > say Sweden, or Germany, heavily discriminate against non French, > > > Swedes, Germans, and one wonders if they include say Turks living in > > > Germany in their data. > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > That's what came to my mind. It wasn't race in as much as it was > lifestyle. > > > Married men live longer than single men. Black men have a tendancy to > be > > > single vs Hispanic men. Calculate the life expectancy of the American > > > Indians, particularily among the men where alcoholism is a pervasive > > > problem. Throwing these factors into the mix, it could account to why > > > America's life expectancy is lower than other countries. We have the > right > > > to be homeless, addicts without any assurance that society will rescue > from > > > you from it. Whereas, other countries coddle and tax their citizens > more. > > > > And keep them alive longer. > > So what! I'd rather have freedom than live a couple of extra years in an > overtaxed, socialist country. > > -Greg Like Sweden, for example, or Australia, or Monaco, or Bermuda? Yup, Detroit sure beats the hell out of any of these.
From: William Clark on 31 Jan 2010 20:16
In article <alangbaker-F956B5.12350631012010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: > In article > <wclark2-B395F2.15302231012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, > William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > > > In article <alangbaker-4ADA55.12135731012010(a)news.shawcable.com>, > > Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > > In article > > > <wclark2-629AF5.12190131012010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, > > > William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > > > In article > > > > <25128116-f286-48cb-af66-6c4940eda4be(a)b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>, > > > > Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jan 30, 5:16�pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > In article <gj69m5hj5cm58a7rtc5ap1qtqglnhpd...(a)4ax.com>, > > > > > > �Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:36:10 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr > > > > > > > <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Africans are very genetically diverse. There is more genetic > > > > > > > >variation > > > > > > > >amongst Africans than all other humans combined, by a lot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's interesting that East Africa produces world class long > > > > > > > distance > > > > > > > runners, and West Africa produces world class sprinters. � Even > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > those people have lived in American countries for generations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder what characteristics would be best for golfing. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you will find that it is because it is East Africa that is > > > > > > more > > > > > > mountainous (at least where people live) so running at altitude > > > > > > trains > > > > > > those slow twitch muscles and aerobic capacity. I don't think it > > > > > > has > > > > > > as > > > > > > much to do with genetics, as it does with tradition. > > > > > > > > > > No such thing as natural selection in Africa I suppose. This thing > > > > > with sickle cell disease and malaria, just a spurious correlation. > > > > > > > > And this has what to do with athletic performance? I see, absolutely > > > > nothing :-) > > > > > > Nice dodge, William, but the underlying subject was genetic differences > > > and their effect on health. > > > > No dodge, just shooting down a few red herrings. > > Sorry, but that's not the way I see it. > > You introduced the subject of athletic performance and bringing the > subject back onto to track is not a red herring. No, someone else introduced the subject of West Africans being known for sprints, and East Africans for distance running. Go check the thread above - that's where athletic performance came from. |