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From: Howard Brazee on 1 Feb 2010 18:11 On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 07:27:27 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >Why does the USA have an immigration problem? Is it because of the lousy >way we treat people within our borders? > >No, it is because of the promise, or was, of freedom. Freedom to work >hard, earn much and enjoy the fruits of your labor. > >People do not emigration to places like Cuba so that they can toil in >the fields of a workers a paradise where the fruits of their labor can >be taken from them because it is the property of the state. > >Individualism is the key. The sad part is that you fail to understand >that I get to do what I want and you get to do what you want. But, what >you want is for me to do what you want, which is sad, very sad. People also go to work in various Arab countries where they don't find such freedom. They go after the money, which is a pretty good motivator when they have hungry families. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: BAR on 1 Feb 2010 18:51 In article <4b675aaa$0$4864$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:27:27 -0500, BAR wrote: > > > Why does the USA have an immigration problem? Is it because of the > > lousy way we treat people within our borders? > > > > No, it is because of the promise, or was, of freedom. Freedom to work > > hard, earn much and enjoy the fruits of your labor. > > > > People do not emigration to places like Cuba so that they can toil in > > the fields of a workers a paradise where the fruits of their labor can > > be taken from them because it is the property of the state. > > > > Individualism is the key. The sad part is that you fail to understand > > that I get to do what I want and you get to do what you want. But, > > what you want is for me to do what you want, which is sad, very sad. > > You seem to be laboring under the delusion that the US is the only > country where you can live in freedom. Ok, name another country where you are or were able to live in freedom.
From: BAR on 1 Feb 2010 18:51 In article <arnem5dhd1i6281vfmonld0sj9gtitrsef(a)4ax.com>, howard(a)brazee.net says... > > On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 07:27:27 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > >Why does the USA have an immigration problem? Is it because of the lousy > >way we treat people within our borders? > > > >No, it is because of the promise, or was, of freedom. Freedom to work > >hard, earn much and enjoy the fruits of your labor. > > > >People do not emigration to places like Cuba so that they can toil in > >the fields of a workers a paradise where the fruits of their labor can > >be taken from them because it is the property of the state. > > > >Individualism is the key. The sad part is that you fail to understand > >that I get to do what I want and you get to do what you want. But, what > >you want is for me to do what you want, which is sad, very sad. > > People also go to work in various Arab countries where they don't find > such freedom. They go after the money, which is a pretty good > motivator when they have hungry families. Do they have freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to associate?
From: Howard Brazee on 1 Feb 2010 20:48 On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:51:44 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >> People also go to work in various Arab countries where they don't find >> such freedom. They go after the money, which is a pretty good >> motivator when they have hungry families. > >Do they have freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to >associate? I said "where they don't find such freedom". My point was that survival seems to trump liberty. People may choose the U.S. for its freedom, but more likely they choose it for the money - at least when they intend to return home later. When they emigrate, that indicates something more. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Carbon on 1 Feb 2010 21:49
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:51:03 -0500, BAR wrote: > In article <4b675aaa$0$4864$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >> You seem to be laboring under the delusion that the US is the only >> country where you can live in freedom. > > Ok, name another country where you are or were able to live in > freedom. Uh, pretty much the entire first world? |