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From: Dinosaur_Sr on 4 Feb 2010 10:28 On Feb 3, 9:19 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- state.edu> wrote: > In article <7su2qsFcf...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > "Dinosaur_Sr" <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote in message > >news:f19a6928-2b61-4a6d-8288-21254cae884a(a)z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com.... > > On Feb 3, 11:37 am, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- > > state.edu> wrote: > > > In article > > > > > > > You don't seem to want to take my bet, so what else is there to say? > > > > > > Your academic chauvinism is entertaining to me! > > > > > > You on the other hand, seem to need to make a "bet" in order to > > provide > > > > > something that every respectable academic does willingly and for free. > > > > > > Could it be that you don't actually have any publications in the > > > > > materials science literature? Certainly the Science Citation Index > > says > > > > > you don't, and I am more inclined to believe that than I am Bert. > > > > > > No, the answer is clear - you have not attended any materials science > > > > > symposia, nor do you have any publications in the materials science > > > > > journals. Pure and simple - you lied. And now you have to bluster to > > > > > cover it up. Shame on you. > > > > > I know my background. You do not, and that is a fact. You are lying > > > > without proper knowledge. My CV has been posted for a long time for > > > > anyone to look at. You are probably just envious of the fact that I am > > > > at least published academically in a field where your productivity is > > > > lacking. > > > > I did fid your publication list on Science Citation Index, or have you > > > chosen to forget that? No evidence there of any materials science > > > activity, so I believe that you were not telling the truth when you > > > claimed to have a) attended materials science symposia, and b) published > > > in the materials science literature. Your continued weaseling simply > > > reinforces that opinion. All the hot air in the world cannot make up for > > > that whopper. > > > Ahh! You're green with envy aren't you! > > > I'll defer to your cowardice, and make the bet fifty bucks! Surely you > > can trust your judgment for 50 bucks worth! > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > This is getting very interesting. C'mon William. What's $50? Surely your > > bluster...er....honor is worth more than that?? > > > Anybody want to make a side bet of $50? My money is on Rob. > > > -Greg > > Go for it. It simply shows how little you understand about academic > integrity. The main issue in academic integrity is honesty. You are in fact publishing statements that are dishonest, and you know for a fact that you do not have complete information, and yet you publish these statements anyways.
From: William Clark on 4 Feb 2010 13:57 In article <53af008f-f40d-42b8-99c3-675372576889(a)l26g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: > On Feb 3, 9:19�pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- > state.edu> wrote: > > In article <7su2qsFcf...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > > > > > �"dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > "Dinosaur Sr" <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote in message > > >news:f19a6928-2b61-4a6d-8288-21254cae884a(a)z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com... > > > On Feb 3, 11:37 am, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- > > > state.edu> wrote: > > > > In article > > > > > > > > > You don't seem to want to take my bet, so what else is there to > > > > > > > say? > > > > > > > Your academic chauvinism is entertaining to me! > > > > > > > > You on the other hand, seem to need to make a "bet" in order to > > > provide > > > > > > something that every respectable academic does willingly and for > > > > > > free. > > > > > > > > Could it be that you don't actually have any publications in the > > > > > > materials science literature? Certainly the Science Citation Index > > > says > > > > > > you don't, and I am more inclined to believe that than I am Bert. > > > > > > > > No, the answer is clear - you have not attended any materials > > > > > > science > > > > > > symposia, nor do you have any publications in the materials science > > > > > > journals. Pure and simple - you lied. And now you have to bluster > > > > > > to > > > > > > cover it up. Shame on you. > > > > > > > I know my background. You do not, and that is a fact. You are lying > > > > > without proper knowledge. My CV has been posted for a long time for > > > > > anyone to look at. You are probably just envious of the fact that I > > > > > am > > > > > at least published academically in a field where your productivity is > > > > > lacking. > > > > > > I did fid your publication list on Science Citation Index, or have you > > > > chosen to forget that? No evidence there of any materials science > > > > activity, so I believe that you were not telling the truth when you > > > > claimed to have a) attended materials science symposia, and b) > > > > published > > > > in the materials science literature. Your continued weaseling simply > > > > reinforces that opinion. All the hot air in the world cannot make up > > > > for > > > > that whopper. > > > > > Ahh! You're green with envy aren't you! > > > > > I'll defer to your cowardice, and make the bet fifty bucks! Surely you > > > can trust your judgment for 50 bucks worth! > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > This is getting very interesting. �C'mon William. �What's $50? �Surely > > > your > > > bluster...er....honor is worth more than that?? > > > > > Anybody want to make a side bet of $50? �My money is on Rob. > > > > > -Greg > > > > Go for it. It simply shows how little you understand about academic > > integrity. > > The main issue in academic integrity is honesty. You are in fact > publishing statements that are dishonest, and you know for a fact that > you do not have complete information, and yet you publish these > statements anyways. You have the means to disprove them very simply. Academic integrity says you should be open with your sources and information. You continue to weasel and wriggle, so as long as you continue to do so, my claim stands as the facts. You made two claims that the evidence shows to were untrue. The ball is in your court.
From: William Clark on 4 Feb 2010 14:01 In article <MPG.25d489011b9fc67d989b19(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <clark-66C96B.21183103022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... > > > Ahh! You're green with envy aren't you! > > > > > > I'll defer to your cowardice, and make the bet fifty bucks! Surely you > > > can trust your judgment for 50 bucks worth! > > > > No, I wouldn't even take it. I value scientific integrity far more than > > any miserable $50. Apparently you don't. > > > > So, you are still a demonstrated liar. Take the chance to prove us > wrong. > > Bullshit. If you had any scientific integrity you would want Jones' and > Mann's degrees rescinded. And, you would want the rest of their Cabal's > degrees rescinded for scientific malpractice. Pipe down, Bertie. You have still to produce the "proof" you claim Dino showed, and which you clearly lied about. You know nothing about science, academia, or the operation of a university, yet you continue to blabber about it like a drunken sailor.
From: Moderate on 4 Feb 2010 21:15 "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message news:clark-EF4406.14023104022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > Why is it necessary to put money down in order simply to have people > tell the "truth"? What a strange and perverted world you live in. Nothing else is going to keep you honest.
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 5 Feb 2010 08:34
On Feb 4, 1:57 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- state.edu> wrote: > In article > <53af008f-f40d-42b8-99c3-675372576...(a)l26g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, > > > > Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > On Feb 3, 9:19 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- > > state.edu> wrote: > > > In article <7su2qsFcf...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > > > "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > "Dinosaur Sr" <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote in message > > > >news:f19a6928-2b61-4a6d-8288-21254cae884a(a)z41g2000yqz.googlegroups.com... > > > > On Feb 3, 11:37 am, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- > > > > state.edu> wrote: > > > > > In article > > > > > > > > > You don't seem to want to take my bet, so what else is there to > > > > > > > > say? > > > > > > > > Your academic chauvinism is entertaining to me! > > > > > > > > You on the other hand, seem to need to make a "bet" in order to > > > > provide > > > > > > > something that every respectable academic does willingly and for > > > > > > > free. > > > > > > > > Could it be that you don't actually have any publications in the > > > > > > > materials science literature? Certainly the Science Citation Index > > > > says > > > > > > > you don't, and I am more inclined to believe that than I am Bert. > > > > > > > > No, the answer is clear - you have not attended any materials > > > > > > > science > > > > > > > symposia, nor do you have any publications in the materials science > > > > > > > journals. Pure and simple - you lied. And now you have to bluster > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > cover it up. Shame on you. > > > > > > > I know my background. You do not, and that is a fact. You are lying > > > > > > without proper knowledge. My CV has been posted for a long time for > > > > > > anyone to look at. You are probably just envious of the fact that I > > > > > > am > > > > > > at least published academically in a field where your productivity is > > > > > > lacking. > > > > > > I did fid your publication list on Science Citation Index, or have you > > > > > chosen to forget that? No evidence there of any materials science > > > > > activity, so I believe that you were not telling the truth when you > > > > > claimed to have a) attended materials science symposia, and b) > > > > > published > > > > > in the materials science literature. Your continued weaseling simply > > > > > reinforces that opinion. All the hot air in the world cannot make up > > > > > for > > > > > that whopper. > > > > > Ahh! You're green with envy aren't you! > > > > > I'll defer to your cowardice, and make the bet fifty bucks! Surely you > > > > can trust your judgment for 50 bucks worth! > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > This is getting very interesting. C'mon William. What's $50? Surely > > > > your > > > > bluster...er....honor is worth more than that?? > > > > > Anybody want to make a side bet of $50? My money is on Rob. > > > > > -Greg > > > > Go for it. It simply shows how little you understand about academic > > > integrity. > > > The main issue in academic integrity is honesty. You are in fact > > publishing statements that are dishonest, and you know for a fact that > > you do not have complete information, and yet you publish these > > statements anyways. > > You have the means to disprove them very simply. Academic integrity says > you should be open with your sources and information. You continue to > weasel and wriggle, so as long as you continue to do so, my claim stands > as the facts. > > You made two claims that the evidence shows to were untrue. The ball is > in your court. No one is under any obligation to prove themselves to you, most especially me. You make groundless, false accusations; proving that you have zero integrity, and then claim that because I don't "prove" myself to you that it is I who lack integrity! The truth in this matter lies in your own actions. |