From: Tim on
On Jul 18, 10:20 pm, "Frank Ketchum" <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote:
> "Tim" <delaney.timo...(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:3531809c-a2d1-48d7-b044-0083ae2680a2(a)g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > The Old Course at St. Andrews may be steeped in history,
> > but I would no more want to play it every week than I would
> > want to drive a Model T. Quite frankly, it's ugly.
>
> > The announcers made all the obligatory comments, and
> > perhaps links golf has its place in professional competition,
> > but the vast majority of golfers play the game for enjoyment.
> > I don't know how one could enjoy playing a course that
> > looks like a sheep ranch.
>
> I guess you don't understand much about the evolution of the game.  There is
> a reason that links courses look like sheep ranches, most of them were at
> one point.  St. Andrews is a course I would love to play before I punch out.

I agree. It would be awesome to play it once. Great
to play it a few times.

Would you want it as a steady diet, however? Every
Saturday? Not me.

>
>
>
> > Treeless might be just fine for Easter island and Haiti, but
> > a golf course without trees is just barren. (If it weren't for
> > an occasional patch of gorse, how would you manage to
> > take a leak?)
>
> > This sort of terrain forces the architect to trick up the
> > course with insanely punitive bunkers, and crazy slopes.
> > What kind of sense does it make to penalize the player
> > a full stroke for being one foot more off line than his
> > fellow competitor when they both hit it down the
> > middle of the fairway?  Isn't there enough luck in the
> > game?
>
> That is links golf dude.  The "architect" in a true links course is God..

But I'm an atheist. And I would prefer Augusta National
as a steady diet.

> When old golf courses were built, they left the native terrain alone and
> basically just made some greens.  This was all done by hand and by horses
> with scrapes.  They did not have the technology to build or remove large
> amounts of offensive mounding easily so they didn't.
>
> If you don't think there is any sense in penalizing the player by missing a
> foot, then how in the world do you watch a US Open?  They do it on purpose
> there.
>
> > But I must say that Oosty (I dare not attempt to spell
> > his name) was just magnificent. I was particularly
> > appreciative of how he played 17.
>
> True dat!

Yes, he is a really worthy champion.

Tim
From: dene on

"dsc-ky" <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote in message
news:c68c8d1c-98c4-42d5-af94-c5e8c9023598(a)m17g2000prl.googlegroups.com...

> If you don't think there is any sense in penalizing the player by missing
a
> foot, then how in the world do you watch a US Open? They do it on purpose
> there.

Furthermore, I get penalized very often for missing a putt by a foot,
when my buddy knocked his in. :)

St, Andrews and all the old courses are different. Doesn't have to be
better or worse, more or less fair, etc... just different. I can see
that some people probably wouldn't like it... and that's fine. I'm not
sure what I would think of playing those courses all the time, but I
sure as hell would like to try it once.

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We have a links course in Portland. It's ok. Bandon is a few hours as
well. I'd play it if the price were right but I wouldn't trade it for a
good desert course or the ones in central Oregon. I like beautiful scenery
and being warm. My game is depressing enough without the addition of ugly
surroundings and cold, marine air.

-Greg


From: Alan Baker on
In article
<0683d450-0dd1-42c7-acd6-3ceade5f7b7f(a)z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
crapyking <crapyking1(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> Not my cup of tee either. Golf is about hitting greens in regulation
> then taking TWO strokes to roll it in, that's how the scorecard was
> designed. Any course that has a 50yrd putting green is ridiculous. And
> 5-6 foot deep bunkers, get real. Not fun to play or watch in my
> opinion. We do play/watch the game for enjoyment don't we?

Do you have any idea how stupid you come across from saying that?

Scotland is where the game was *invented* and to suggest that a
scorecard is "designed" to tell you what strokes to play is just...
....idiotic.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
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From: Frank Ketchum on

"Tim" <delaney.timothy(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
news:b693cdb2-6bd3-4ee8-ae8e-e2292ce6d037(a)w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...

> I agree. It would be awesome to play it once. Great
> to play it a few times.
>
> Would you want it as a steady diet, however? Every
> Saturday? Not me.

I couldn't say having never set foot on it. I know I couldn't afford it.


> But I'm an atheist. And I would prefer Augusta National
> as a steady diet.

I am a theist as well. I would love to donate a couple golf balls at ANG.


From: BAR on
In article <alangbaker-50070D.02182719072010(a)news.shawcable.com>,
alangbaker(a)telus.net says...
>
> In article
> <0683d450-0dd1-42c7-acd6-3ceade5f7b7f(a)z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> crapyking <crapyking1(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Not my cup of tee either. Golf is about hitting greens in regulation
> > then taking TWO strokes to roll it in, that's how the scorecard was
> > designed. Any course that has a 50yrd putting green is ridiculous. And
> > 5-6 foot deep bunkers, get real. Not fun to play or watch in my
> > opinion. We do play/watch the game for enjoyment don't we?
>
> Do you have any idea how stupid you come across from saying that?
>
> Scotland is where the game was *invented* and to suggest that a
> scorecard is "designed" to tell you what strokes to play is just...
> ...idiotic.

There is debate as to origins of the game.