From: William Clark on
In article <i247us$26h$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
"Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:

> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:wclark2-430C41.20092019072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > In article <8ai92cFjdnU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> We have a links course in Portland. It's ok. Bandon is a few hours as
> >> well. I'd play it if the price were right but I wouldn't trade it for a
> >> good desert course or the ones in central Oregon. I like beautiful
> >> scenery
> >> and being warm. My game is depressing enough without the addition of
> >> ugly
> >> surroundings and cold, marine air.
> >>
> >> -Greg
> >
> > No, you don't. You have a course set up to resemble a links course, but
> > it is not a links course in the sense that St. Andres, Carnoustie,
> > Troon, Muirfield, and the rest are. That takes a couple of hundred
> > years, a lot of sheep, and striking natural beauty.
> *********************************************
>
> How did sheep make those bunkers and that ugly ditch? That course is an
> eyesore.

Sheep made the bunkers by digging holes in the sandy soil to get shelter
from the wind. And the course os not an "eyesore" - it's magnificent, if
you have seen it. Which, of course, you have not.

Schooled. Again.
From: William Clark on
In article <ji4b46tadc1qd3meqq8k22l5gpnrsdr16n(a)4ax.com>,
bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:02:08 -0400, William Clark
> <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <g63a465evlj4ktu0c42ndhh2hkhtvndlnn(a)4ax.com>,
> > bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:37:15 -0400, William Clark
> >> <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:
> >>
>
> >> >How many of the greats say that St. Andrews is the favourite course os
> >> >all? The majority of them do.
> >>
> >> Only when asked at St. Andrews.
> >>
> >> BK
> >
> >Oh, no! You are not implying that these heroes might play fast and loose
> >with the truth, are you? Heavens!
>
> Its called being nice to your host.
>
> BK

Yes, but in most case there is more sincerity than that. Or maybe it's
the bacon sandwiches?
From: dene on

"William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:wclark2-A9E308.12334320072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...

> >
> > How did sheep make those bunkers and that ugly ditch? That course is an
> > eyesore.
>
> Sheep made the bunkers by digging holes in the sandy soil to get shelter
> from the wind. And the course os not an "eyesore" - it's magnificent, if
> you have seen it. Which, of course, you have not.
>
> Schooled. Again.

I thought it was a vain attempt to get away from you and your relatives. :)

-Greg


From: William Clark on
In article <8am5ieF8q6U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:

> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:wclark2-A9E308.12334320072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>
> > >
> > > How did sheep make those bunkers and that ugly ditch? That course is an
> > > eyesore.
> >
> > Sheep made the bunkers by digging holes in the sandy soil to get shelter
> > from the wind. And the course os not an "eyesore" - it's magnificent, if
> > you have seen it. Which, of course, you have not.
> >
> > Schooled. Again.
>
> I thought it was a vain attempt to get away from you and your relatives. :)
>
> -Greg

Ho, ho, ho. Christ on a bike.
From: Paul Schmitz-Josten on
Tim in <3531809c-a2d1-48d7-b044-0083ae2680a2(a)g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>:

(The Old Course at St. Andrews)
>The announcers made all the obligatory comments, and
>perhaps links golf has its place in professional competition,
>but the vast majority of golfers play the game for enjoyment.
>I don't know how one could enjoy playing a course that
>looks like a sheep ranch.

Coming to Scotland, you might enjoy playing courses with real sheep through
the green. On some, the greens are protected by electric wire to keep them
off ;->

>Treeless might be just fine for Easter island and Haiti, but
>a golf course without trees is just barren. (If it weren't for
>an occasional patch of gorse, how would you manage to
>take a leak?)

I agree that some trees and some hills please me, too, but the best is to
take what the land gives you, and there ain't no trees on these links
grounds - only gorse and heather, and on fatter ground there may be daisies
- the unknown enemy of the common golfer.

>This sort of terrain forces the architect to trick up the
>course with insanely punitive bunkers, and crazy slopes.
>What kind of sense does it make to penalize the player
>a full stroke for being one foot more off line than his
>fellow competitor when they both hit it down the
>middle of the fairway? Isn't there enough luck in the
>game?

You have been told already that there was no architect ;->

>I have another gripe with the Old Course. Why are
>there so few par fives and par threes? In fact, I would
>think the ideal course would have six of each.

Mind you, this course was established 600(?) years ago, and the holes
haven't changed much since then, except that they dropped 2 from 12 holes
in 1764, before inventing the double greens to form 18 tracks ;->

>(Having
>said this, I do agree that the concept of par on any
>particular hole is highly artificial. 17 and 18 are both
>par fours on the card, but ....)

The pros drive the 18th now, but to international standards, it's still a
Par 4. And I won't discuss the 17th until the first guy will hit the green
with his tee shot ;->

>But I must say that Oosty (I dare not attempt to spell
>his name) was just magnificent. I was particularly
>appreciative of how he played 17.

Oosthuizen ;->

Did you observe that he played -7, -5, -3, -1?

A pretty nice & clever game plan, isn't it?

Even at the 72th, he stuck to it, not tempting a birdie putt!

Ciao,

Paul