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From: William Clark on 20 Jul 2010 12:33 In article <i247us$26h$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > news:wclark2-430C41.20092019072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > In article <8ai92cFjdnU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > >> > >> We have a links course in Portland. It's ok. Bandon is a few hours as > >> well. I'd play it if the price were right but I wouldn't trade it for a > >> good desert course or the ones in central Oregon. I like beautiful > >> scenery > >> and being warm. My game is depressing enough without the addition of > >> ugly > >> surroundings and cold, marine air. > >> > >> -Greg > > > > No, you don't. You have a course set up to resemble a links course, but > > it is not a links course in the sense that St. Andres, Carnoustie, > > Troon, Muirfield, and the rest are. That takes a couple of hundred > > years, a lot of sheep, and striking natural beauty. > ********************************************* > > How did sheep make those bunkers and that ugly ditch? That course is an > eyesore. Sheep made the bunkers by digging holes in the sandy soil to get shelter from the wind. And the course os not an "eyesore" - it's magnificent, if you have seen it. Which, of course, you have not. Schooled. Again.
From: William Clark on 20 Jul 2010 12:35 In article <ji4b46tadc1qd3meqq8k22l5gpnrsdr16n(a)4ax.com>, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:02:08 -0400, William Clark > <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > > >In article <g63a465evlj4ktu0c42ndhh2hkhtvndlnn(a)4ax.com>, > > bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:37:15 -0400, William Clark > >> <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >How many of the greats say that St. Andrews is the favourite course os > >> >all? The majority of them do. > >> > >> Only when asked at St. Andrews. > >> > >> BK > > > >Oh, no! You are not implying that these heroes might play fast and loose > >with the truth, are you? Heavens! > > Its called being nice to your host. > > BK Yes, but in most case there is more sincerity than that. Or maybe it's the bacon sandwiches?
From: dene on 20 Jul 2010 13:47 "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message news:wclark2-A9E308.12334320072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > > > How did sheep make those bunkers and that ugly ditch? That course is an > > eyesore. > > Sheep made the bunkers by digging holes in the sandy soil to get shelter > from the wind. And the course os not an "eyesore" - it's magnificent, if > you have seen it. Which, of course, you have not. > > Schooled. Again. I thought it was a vain attempt to get away from you and your relatives. :) -Greg
From: William Clark on 20 Jul 2010 14:12 In article <8am5ieF8q6U1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > news:wclark2-A9E308.12334320072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > > > > > > How did sheep make those bunkers and that ugly ditch? That course is an > > > eyesore. > > > > Sheep made the bunkers by digging holes in the sandy soil to get shelter > > from the wind. And the course os not an "eyesore" - it's magnificent, if > > you have seen it. Which, of course, you have not. > > > > Schooled. Again. > > I thought it was a vain attempt to get away from you and your relatives. :) > > -Greg Ho, ho, ho. Christ on a bike.
From: Paul Schmitz-Josten on 20 Jul 2010 14:44
Tim in <3531809c-a2d1-48d7-b044-0083ae2680a2(a)g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>: (The Old Course at St. Andrews) >The announcers made all the obligatory comments, and >perhaps links golf has its place in professional competition, >but the vast majority of golfers play the game for enjoyment. >I don't know how one could enjoy playing a course that >looks like a sheep ranch. Coming to Scotland, you might enjoy playing courses with real sheep through the green. On some, the greens are protected by electric wire to keep them off ;-> >Treeless might be just fine for Easter island and Haiti, but >a golf course without trees is just barren. (If it weren't for >an occasional patch of gorse, how would you manage to >take a leak?) I agree that some trees and some hills please me, too, but the best is to take what the land gives you, and there ain't no trees on these links grounds - only gorse and heather, and on fatter ground there may be daisies - the unknown enemy of the common golfer. >This sort of terrain forces the architect to trick up the >course with insanely punitive bunkers, and crazy slopes. >What kind of sense does it make to penalize the player >a full stroke for being one foot more off line than his >fellow competitor when they both hit it down the >middle of the fairway? Isn't there enough luck in the >game? You have been told already that there was no architect ;-> >I have another gripe with the Old Course. Why are >there so few par fives and par threes? In fact, I would >think the ideal course would have six of each. Mind you, this course was established 600(?) years ago, and the holes haven't changed much since then, except that they dropped 2 from 12 holes in 1764, before inventing the double greens to form 18 tracks ;-> >(Having >said this, I do agree that the concept of par on any >particular hole is highly artificial. 17 and 18 are both >par fours on the card, but ....) The pros drive the 18th now, but to international standards, it's still a Par 4. And I won't discuss the 17th until the first guy will hit the green with his tee shot ;-> >But I must say that Oosty (I dare not attempt to spell >his name) was just magnificent. I was particularly >appreciative of how he played 17. Oosthuizen ;-> Did you observe that he played -7, -5, -3, -1? A pretty nice & clever game plan, isn't it? Even at the 72th, he stuck to it, not tempting a birdie putt! Ciao, Paul |