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From: William Clark on 19 Jul 2010 20:48 In article <alangbaker-E0612D.17180519072010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: > In article > <wclark2-53187E.19564619072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, > William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > > > In article <MPG.26aeaa107e9992f698a12d(a)news.giganews.com>, > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > In article <alangbaker-522FFA.10254819072010(a)news.shawcable.com>, > > > alangbaker(a)telus.net says... > > > > > > > > In article <MPG.26ae009a7601a1ae98a12c(a)news.giganews.com>, > > > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In article <alangbaker-50070D.02182719072010(a)news.shawcable.com>, > > > > > alangbaker(a)telus.net says... > > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > <0683d450-0dd1-42c7-acd6-3ceade5f7b7f(a)z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > crapyking <crapyking1(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not my cup of tee either. Golf is about hitting greens in > > > > > > > regulation > > > > > > > then taking TWO strokes to roll it in, that's how the scorecard > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > designed. Any course that has a 50yrd putting green is > > > > > > > ridiculous. > > > > > > > And > > > > > > > 5-6 foot deep bunkers, get real. Not fun to play or watch in my > > > > > > > opinion. We do play/watch the game for enjoyment don't we? > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you have any idea how stupid you come across from saying that? > > > > > > > > > > > > Scotland is where the game was *invented* and to suggest that a > > > > > > scorecard is "designed" to tell you what strokes to play is just... > > > > > > ...idiotic. > > > > > > > > > > There is debate as to origins of the game. > > > > > > > > There always will be... > > > > > > > > ...but it doesn't change the fact that they've been playing golf in > > > > Scotland for nearly three times as long as there has been a country > > > > called the United States of America. > > > > > > Have you bowed to your Queen lately? > > > > Alan wins. > > > > By a mile. > > If only it were much of an accomplishment... I know, but every little helps.
From: dene on 19 Jul 2010 20:55 "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message news:wclark2-AC86AE.20101719072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > In article <8ajsnpFi5qU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > "Eric Ramon" <ramon.eric(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:601a515d-a181-41ac-a1ff-04d6b8312f21(a)z15g2000prn.googlegroups.com... > > > On Jul 18, 11:22 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > "dsc-ky" <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:c68c8d1c-98c4-42d5-af94-c5e8c9023598(a)m17g2000prl.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you don't think there is any sense in penalizing the player by > > missing > > > > a > > > > > foot, then how in the world do you watch a US Open? They do it on > > purpose > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > Furthermore, I get penalized very often for missing a putt by a foot, > > > > when my buddy knocked his in. :) > > > > > > > > St, Andrews and all the old courses are different. Doesn't have to be > > > > better or worse, more or less fair, etc... just different. I can see > > > > that some people probably wouldn't like it... and that's fine. I'm not > > > > sure what I would think of playing those courses all the time, but I > > > > sure as hell would like to try it once. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > We have a links course in Portland. It's ok. Bandon is a few hours as > > > > well. I'd play it if the price were right but I wouldn't trade it for a > > > > good desert course or the ones in central Oregon. I like beautiful > > scenery > > > > and being warm. My game is depressing enough without the addition of > > ugly > > > > surroundings and cold, marine air. > > > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > which course in Portland do you consider a links course? Heron Lakes? > > > That's the only one I can think of that comes close. I'd like to play > > > Bandon one of these days but that's pretty expensive, as you mention. > > > We can get in 6 or 7 rounds at a city course for the price of one > > > round in Bandon. > > > > Yep...Heron Lakes. I don't even think their Links course is work the extra > > money, compared to their other courses. > > > > -Greg > > Which is why the great UK links courses are mostly public. I don't think > you quite get it. All the courses I referred to are public. Duh! -Greg
From: dene on 19 Jul 2010 20:57 "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message news:wclark2-430C41.20092019072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > In article <8ai92cFjdnU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > "dsc-ky" <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote in message > > news:c68c8d1c-98c4-42d5-af94-c5e8c9023598(a)m17g2000prl.googlegroups.com... > > > > > If you don't think there is any sense in penalizing the player by missing > > a > > > foot, then how in the world do you watch a US Open? They do it on purpose > > > there. > > > > Furthermore, I get penalized very often for missing a putt by a foot, > > when my buddy knocked his in. :) > > > > St, Andrews and all the old courses are different. Doesn't have to be > > better or worse, more or less fair, etc... just different. I can see > > that some people probably wouldn't like it... and that's fine. I'm not > > sure what I would think of playing those courses all the time, but I > > sure as hell would like to try it once. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > We have a links course in Portland. It's ok. Bandon is a few hours as > > well. I'd play it if the price were right but I wouldn't trade it for a > > good desert course or the ones in central Oregon. I like beautiful scenery > > and being warm. My game is depressing enough without the addition of ugly > > surroundings and cold, marine air. > > > > -Greg > > No, you don't. You have a course set up to resemble a links course, but > it is not a links course in the sense that St. Andres, Carnoustie, > Troon, Muirfield, and the rest are. That takes a couple of hundred > years, a lot of sheep, and striking natural beauty. I'll grant you all the above except the natural beauty. The only thing uglier on TV than the BO is Keith Olberman. I especially yield to your first hand knowledge about sheep. -Greg
From: dene on 19 Jul 2010 20:59 "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message news:wclark2-67224E.20043719072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > In article <avO0o.11775$KT3.664(a)newsfe13.iad>, > "Frank Ketchum" <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: > > > "Tim" <delaney.timothy(a)comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:3531809c-a2d1-48d7-b044-0083ae2680a2(a)g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... > > > The Old Course at St. Andrews may be steeped in history, > > > but I would no more want to play it every week than I would > > > want to drive a Model T. Quite frankly, it's ugly. > > > > > > The announcers made all the obligatory comments, and > > > perhaps links golf has its place in professional competition, > > > but the vast majority of golfers play the game for enjoyment. > > > I don't know how one could enjoy playing a course that > > > looks like a sheep ranch. > > > > I guess you don't understand much about the evolution of the game. There is > > a reason that links courses look like sheep ranches, most of them were at > > one point. St. Andrews is a course I would love to play before I punch out. > > > > > > > > Treeless might be just fine for Easter island and Haiti, but > > > a golf course without trees is just barren. (If it weren't for > > > an occasional patch of gorse, how would you manage to > > > take a leak?) > > You sound like so many of the US pros after their first visit to an Open > on a true links course. After a round or two, in changing conditions, > the good ones come to realize that this is actually a better test of > golf, and the creativity it demands, than playing target golf on an > artificial TPC layout, and come to love it. You have obviously never > played a links course on a fresh day. Sea air coming in off the ocean, > magnificent views, and an envigorating walk over the terrain. How does > that compare with sweating round a 95 degree swamp in a cart as we are > at the moment? Try it some time - you'll be a better person for it. You know little about Central Oregon courses, surrounded by real mountains, warm temps, and little humidity. -Greg
From: Alan Baker on 19 Jul 2010 20:57
In article <wclark2-3737BF.20481119072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > In article <MPG.26aeb722a87defe498a130(a)news.giganews.com>, > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <wclark2-53187E.19564619072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > > > > > In article <MPG.26aeaa107e9992f698a12d(a)news.giganews.com>, > > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > > > In article <alangbaker-522FFA.10254819072010(a)news.shawcable.com>, > > > > alangbaker(a)telus.net says... > > > > > > > > > > In article <MPG.26ae009a7601a1ae98a12c(a)news.giganews.com>, > > > > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In article <alangbaker-50070D.02182719072010(a)news.shawcable.com>, > > > > > > alangbaker(a)telus.net says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > <0683d450-0dd1-42c7-acd6-3ceade5f7b7f(a)z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > crapyking <crapyking1(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not my cup of tee either. Golf is about hitting greens in > > > > > > > > regulation > > > > > > > > then taking TWO strokes to roll it in, that's how the scorecard > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > designed. Any course that has a 50yrd putting green is > > > > > > > > ridiculous. And > > > > > > > > 5-6 foot deep bunkers, get real. Not fun to play or watch in my > > > > > > > > opinion. We do play/watch the game for enjoyment don't we? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you have any idea how stupid you come across from saying that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scotland is where the game was *invented* and to suggest that a > > > > > > > scorecard is "designed" to tell you what strokes to play is > > > > > > > just... > > > > > > > ...idiotic. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is debate as to origins of the game. > > > > > > > > > > There always will be... > > > > > > > > > > ...but it doesn't change the fact that they've been playing golf in > > > > > Scotland for nearly three times as long as there has been a country > > > > > called the United States of America. > > > > > > > > Have you bowed to your Queen lately? > > > > > > Alan wins. > > > > > > By a mile. > > > > Isn't the Queen of England also the Queen of Canada? > > She is not as much of a queen as you are :-) Awwww... You gave it away. :-( -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> |