From: bknight on
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:56:24 -0400, William Clark
<wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:

>In article <sK11o.33592$3%3.3817(a)newsfe23.iad>,
> "Frank Ketchum" <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote:

>> Just imagine if the British Open were nearly as important to American
>> golfers as the Masters or the US Open!
>> Tiger might not use it as an experiment for a new putter.
>
>You obviously weren't watching over the weekend, when every US player
>kept saying this was the tournament they wanted to win above all others.
>I didn't hear any claimants for the PGA, nor even the Masters and the US
>Open. The fact that TW changed his putter after all these years actually
>indicates just how desperate he was to win it, not that he had kissed it
>off. Sorry.

Get real Clark. Would you expect them to say that they'd rather win
the Masters, U.S. Open or the PGA? They make the same kind of remarks
at those tournaments.

BK
From: R&B on
On 2010-07-18 19:26:54 -0400, Tim said:

> The Old Course at St. Andrews may be steeped in history,
> but I would no more want to play it every week than I would
> want to drive a Model T. Quite frankly, it's ugly.
>
> The announcers made all the obligatory comments, and
> perhaps links golf has its place in professional competition,
> but the vast majority of golfers play the game for enjoyment.
> I don't know how one could enjoy playing a course that
> looks like a sheep ranch.
>
> Treeless might be just fine for Easter island and Haiti, but
> a golf course without trees is just barren. (If it weren't for
> an occasional patch of gorse, how would you manage to
> take a leak?)
>
> This sort of terrain forces the architect to trick up the
> course with insanely punitive bunkers, and crazy slopes.
> What kind of sense does it make to penalize the player
> a full stroke for being one foot more off line than his
> fellow competitor when they both hit it down the
> middle of the fairway? Isn't there enough luck in the
> game?
>
> I have another gripe with the Old Course. Why are
> there so few par fives and par threes? In fact, I would
> think the ideal course would have six of each. (Having
> said this, I do agree that the concept of par on any
> particular hole is highly artificial. 17 and 18 are both
> par fours on the card, but ....)
>
> But I must say that Oosty (I dare not attempt to spell
> his name) was just magnificent. I was particularly
> appreciative of how he played 17. Van de Velde,
> take a lesson from this guy!
>
> Tim


You might have a different feeling if you ever actually saw the place
in person.

Randy

From: William Clark on
In article <8aka95Fqq5U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:

> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:wclark2-AC86AE.20101719072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > In article <8ajsnpFi5qU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "Eric Ramon" <ramon.eric(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >
> news:601a515d-a181-41ac-a1ff-04d6b8312f21(a)z15g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On Jul 18, 11:22 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> > > > > "dsc-ky" <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote in message
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> news:c68c8d1c-98c4-42d5-af94-c5e8c9023598(a)m17g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > If you don't think there is any sense in penalizing the player by
> > > missing
> > > > > a
> > > > > > foot, then how in the world do you watch a US Open? They do it on
> > > purpose
> > > > > > there.
> > > > >
> > > > > Furthermore, I get penalized very often for missing a putt by a
> foot,
> > > > > when my buddy knocked his in. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > St, Andrews and all the old courses are different. Doesn't have to
> be
> > > > > better or worse, more or less fair, etc... just different. I can see
> > > > > that some people probably wouldn't like it... and that's fine. I'm
> not
> > > > > sure what I would think of playing those courses all the time, but I
> > > > > sure as hell would like to try it once.
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > We have a links course in Portland. It's ok. Bandon is a few hours
> as
> > > > > well. I'd play it if the price were right but I wouldn't trade it
> for a
> > > > > good desert course or the ones in central Oregon. I like beautiful
> > > scenery
> > > > > and being warm. My game is depressing enough without the addition
> of
> > > ugly
> > > > > surroundings and cold, marine air.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Greg
> > > >
> > > > which course in Portland do you consider a links course? Heron Lakes?
> > > > That's the only one I can think of that comes close. I'd like to play
> > > > Bandon one of these days but that's pretty expensive, as you mention.
> > > > We can get in 6 or 7 rounds at a city course for the price of one
> > > > round in Bandon.
> > >
> > > Yep...Heron Lakes. I don't even think their Links course is work the
> extra
> > > money, compared to their other courses.
> > >
> > > -Greg
> >
> > Which is why the great UK links courses are mostly public. I don't think
> > you quite get it.
>
> All the courses I referred to are public. Duh!
>
> -Greg

Fine - why don't you try to walk on at Muirfield Village, or Oakmont,
then?
From: William Clark on
In article <8akacvFrajU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:

> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:wclark2-430C41.20092019072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > In article <8ai92cFjdnU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "dsc-ky" <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote in message
> > >
> news:c68c8d1c-98c4-42d5-af94-c5e8c9023598(a)m17g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > > If you don't think there is any sense in penalizing the player by
> missing
> > > a
> > > > foot, then how in the world do you watch a US Open? They do it on
> purpose
> > > > there.
> > >
> > > Furthermore, I get penalized very often for missing a putt by a foot,
> > > when my buddy knocked his in. :)
> > >
> > > St, Andrews and all the old courses are different. Doesn't have to be
> > > better or worse, more or less fair, etc... just different. I can see
> > > that some people probably wouldn't like it... and that's fine. I'm not
> > > sure what I would think of playing those courses all the time, but I
> > > sure as hell would like to try it once.
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > We have a links course in Portland. It's ok. Bandon is a few hours as
> > > well. I'd play it if the price were right but I wouldn't trade it for a
> > > good desert course or the ones in central Oregon. I like beautiful
> scenery
> > > and being warm. My game is depressing enough without the addition of
> ugly
> > > surroundings and cold, marine air.
> > >
> > > -Greg
> >
> > No, you don't. You have a course set up to resemble a links course, but
> > it is not a links course in the sense that St. Andres, Carnoustie,
> > Troon, Muirfield, and the rest are. That takes a couple of hundred
> > years, a lot of sheep, and striking natural beauty.
>
> I'll grant you all the above except the natural beauty. The only thing
> uglier on TV than the BO is Keith Olberman.

You are joking, right? Ever seen Ailsa Craig in the late afternoon sun?
No, I thought not, so why not just stick to the silly political jibes?
It is nearer your speed.
From: dene on

"BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.26aeb722a87defe498a130(a)news.giganews.com...
> In article <wclark2-53187E.19564619072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> >

> > > Have you bowed to your Queen lately?
> >
> > Alan wins.
> >
> > By a mile.
>
> Isn't the Queen of England also the Queen of Canada?

Isn't Baker the Queen of Vancouver?

-Greg