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From: William Clark on 19 Jul 2010 22:35 In article <8akaggFrqfU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > news:wclark2-67224E.20043719072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > In article <avO0o.11775$KT3.664(a)newsfe13.iad>, > > "Frank Ketchum" <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: > > > > > "Tim" <delaney.timothy(a)comcast.net> wrote in message > > > > news:3531809c-a2d1-48d7-b044-0083ae2680a2(a)g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... > > > > The Old Course at St. Andrews may be steeped in history, > > > > but I would no more want to play it every week than I would > > > > want to drive a Model T. Quite frankly, it's ugly. > > > > > > > > The announcers made all the obligatory comments, and > > > > perhaps links golf has its place in professional competition, > > > > but the vast majority of golfers play the game for enjoyment. > > > > I don't know how one could enjoy playing a course that > > > > looks like a sheep ranch. > > > > > > I guess you don't understand much about the evolution of the game. > There is > > > a reason that links courses look like sheep ranches, most of them were > at > > > one point. St. Andrews is a course I would love to play before I punch > out. > > > > > > > > > > > Treeless might be just fine for Easter island and Haiti, but > > > > a golf course without trees is just barren. (If it weren't for > > > > an occasional patch of gorse, how would you manage to > > > > take a leak?) > > > > You sound like so many of the US pros after their first visit to an Open > > on a true links course. After a round or two, in changing conditions, > > the good ones come to realize that this is actually a better test of > > golf, and the creativity it demands, than playing target golf on an > > artificial TPC layout, and come to love it. You have obviously never > > played a links course on a fresh day. Sea air coming in off the ocean, > > magnificent views, and an envigorating walk over the terrain. How does > > that compare with sweating round a 95 degree swamp in a cart as we are > > at the moment? Try it some time - you'll be a better person for it. > > You know little about Central Oregon courses, surrounded by real mountains, > warm temps, and little humidity. > > -Greg Whoopee. Central Oregon is very beautiful, but it is not on the coast, and so does not have the constant changes of vista that links courses do. But if staying there is more in your comfort zone, please do so.
From: William Clark on 19 Jul 2010 22:36 In article <alangbaker-75476C.17572419072010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: > In article > <wclark2-3737BF.20481119072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, > William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > > > In article <MPG.26aeb722a87defe498a130(a)news.giganews.com>, > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > In article <wclark2-53187E.19564619072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > > > > > > > In article <MPG.26aeaa107e9992f698a12d(a)news.giganews.com>, > > > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In article <alangbaker-522FFA.10254819072010(a)news.shawcable.com>, > > > > > alangbaker(a)telus.net says... > > > > > > > > > > > > In article <MPG.26ae009a7601a1ae98a12c(a)news.giganews.com>, > > > > > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article <alangbaker-50070D.02182719072010(a)news.shawcable.com>, > > > > > > > alangbaker(a)telus.net says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article > > > > > > > > <0683d450-0dd1-42c7-acd6-3ceade5f7b7f(a)z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.c > > > > > > > > om > > > > > > > > >, > > > > > > > > crapyking <crapyking1(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not my cup of tee either. Golf is about hitting greens in > > > > > > > > > regulation > > > > > > > > > then taking TWO strokes to roll it in, that's how the > > > > > > > > > scorecard > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > designed. Any course that has a 50yrd putting green is > > > > > > > > > ridiculous. And > > > > > > > > > 5-6 foot deep bunkers, get real. Not fun to play or watch in > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > opinion. We do play/watch the game for enjoyment don't we? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you have any idea how stupid you come across from saying > > > > > > > > that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scotland is where the game was *invented* and to suggest that a > > > > > > > > scorecard is "designed" to tell you what strokes to play is > > > > > > > > just... > > > > > > > > ...idiotic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is debate as to origins of the game. > > > > > > > > > > > > There always will be... > > > > > > > > > > > > ...but it doesn't change the fact that they've been playing golf in > > > > > > Scotland for nearly three times as long as there has been a country > > > > > > called the United States of America. > > > > > > > > > > Have you bowed to your Queen lately? > > > > > > > > Alan wins. > > > > > > > > By a mile. > > > > > > Isn't the Queen of England also the Queen of Canada? > > > > She is not as much of a queen as you are :-) > > Awwww... > > You gave it away. > > :-( Sorry, sometime I can't help myself ;-)
From: William Clark on 19 Jul 2010 22:37 In article <vqu946hf1if43bkaufj8rkfiftlgeaaesh(a)4ax.com>, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:56:24 -0400, William Clark > <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > > >In article <sK11o.33592$3%3.3817(a)newsfe23.iad>, > > "Frank Ketchum" <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: > > >> Just imagine if the British Open were nearly as important to American > >> golfers as the Masters or the US Open! > >> Tiger might not use it as an experiment for a new putter. > > > >You obviously weren't watching over the weekend, when every US player > >kept saying this was the tournament they wanted to win above all others. > >I didn't hear any claimants for the PGA, nor even the Masters and the US > >Open. The fact that TW changed his putter after all these years actually > >indicates just how desperate he was to win it, not that he had kissed it > >off. Sorry. > > Get real Clark. Would you expect them to say that they'd rather win > the Masters, U.S. Open or the PGA? They make the same kind of remarks > at those tournaments. > > BK How many of the greats say that St. Andrews is the favourite course os all? The majority of them do.
From: Alan Baker on 19 Jul 2010 22:37 In article <8akgatFn7jU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.26aeb722a87defe498a130(a)news.giganews.com... > > In article <wclark2-53187E.19564619072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > > > > > > > Have you bowed to your Queen lately? > > > > > > Alan wins. > > > > > > By a mile. > > > > Isn't the Queen of England also the Queen of Canada? > > Isn't Baker the Queen of Vancouver? > > -Greg Sorry, Greg, but that jokes already been done. I guess when it comes to sexual innuendo, you come up a little short, huh? -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: dsc-ky on 19 Jul 2010 22:39
On Jul 19, 8:57 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > "William Clark" <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:wclark2-430C41.20092019072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...> In article <8ai92cFjd...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > "dsc-ky" <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote in message > > news:c68c8d1c-98c4-42d5-af94-c5e8c9023598(a)m17g2000prl.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > > > > If you don't think there is any sense in penalizing the player by > missing > > > a > > > > foot, then how in the world do you watch a US Open? They do it on > purpose > > > > there. > > > > Furthermore, I get penalized very often for missing a putt by a foot, > > > when my buddy knocked his in. :) > > > > St, Andrews and all the old courses are different. Doesn't have to be > > > better or worse, more or less fair, etc... just different. I can see > > > that some people probably wouldn't like it... and that's fine. I'm not > > > sure what I would think of playing those courses all the time, but I > > > sure as hell would like to try it once. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > We have a links course in Portland. It's ok. Bandon is a few hours as > > > well. I'd play it if the price were right but I wouldn't trade it for a > > > good desert course or the ones in central Oregon. I like beautiful > scenery > > > and being warm. My game is depressing enough without the addition of > ugly > > > surroundings and cold, marine air. > > > > -Greg > > > No, you don't. You have a course set up to resemble a links course, but > > it is not a links course in the sense that St. Andres, Carnoustie, > > Troon, Muirfield, and the rest are. That takes a couple of hundred > > years, a lot of sheep, and striking natural beauty. > > I'll grant you all the above except the natural beauty. The only thing > uglier on TV than the BO is Keith Olberman. > > I especially yield to your first hand knowledge about sheep. > > -Greg Well if you add in some of the buildings, the setting, etc it is a thing of beauty. Even some of the course is pretty. |