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From: Tim on 18 Jul 2010 19:26 The Old Course at St. Andrews may be steeped in history, but I would no more want to play it every week than I would want to drive a Model T. Quite frankly, it's ugly. The announcers made all the obligatory comments, and perhaps links golf has its place in professional competition, but the vast majority of golfers play the game for enjoyment. I don't know how one could enjoy playing a course that looks like a sheep ranch. Treeless might be just fine for Easter island and Haiti, but a golf course without trees is just barren. (If it weren't for an occasional patch of gorse, how would you manage to take a leak?) This sort of terrain forces the architect to trick up the course with insanely punitive bunkers, and crazy slopes. What kind of sense does it make to penalize the player a full stroke for being one foot more off line than his fellow competitor when they both hit it down the middle of the fairway? Isn't there enough luck in the game? I have another gripe with the Old Course. Why are there so few par fives and par threes? In fact, I would think the ideal course would have six of each. (Having said this, I do agree that the concept of par on any particular hole is highly artificial. 17 and 18 are both par fours on the card, but ....) But I must say that Oosty (I dare not attempt to spell his name) was just magnificent. I was particularly appreciative of how he played 17. Van de Velde, take a lesson from this guy! Tim
From: crapyking on 18 Jul 2010 20:50 Not my cup of tee either. Golf is about hitting greens in regulation then taking TWO strokes to roll it in, that's how the scorecard was designed. Any course that has a 50yrd putting green is ridiculous. And 5-6 foot deep bunkers, get real. Not fun to play or watch in my opinion. We do play/watch the game for enjoyment don't we?
From: Chuck on 18 Jul 2010 22:09 Who is this turkey? One of the best tournaments, so sayeth all the pros and this guy is worried where to take a leak. I've played it and they provide facilities on the course. Links golf is amazing and the international flair is great. "Tim" <delaney.timothy(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:3531809c-a2d1-48d7-b044-0083ae2680a2(a)g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... > The Old Course at St. Andrews may be steeped in history, > but I would no more want to play it every week than I would > want to drive a Model T. Quite frankly, it's ugly. > > The announcers made all the obligatory comments, and > perhaps links golf has its place in professional competition, > but the vast majority of golfers play the game for enjoyment. > I don't know how one could enjoy playing a course that > looks like a sheep ranch. > > Treeless might be just fine for Easter island and Haiti, but > a golf course without trees is just barren. (If it weren't for > an occasional patch of gorse, how would you manage to > take a leak?) > > This sort of terrain forces the architect to trick up the > course with insanely punitive bunkers, and crazy slopes. > What kind of sense does it make to penalize the player > a full stroke for being one foot more off line than his > fellow competitor when they both hit it down the > middle of the fairway? Isn't there enough luck in the > game? > > I have another gripe with the Old Course. Why are > there so few par fives and par threes? In fact, I would > think the ideal course would have six of each. (Having > said this, I do agree that the concept of par on any > particular hole is highly artificial. 17 and 18 are both > par fours on the card, but ....) > > But I must say that Oosty (I dare not attempt to spell > his name) was just magnificent. I was particularly > appreciative of how he played 17. Van de Velde, > take a lesson from this guy! > > Tim
From: Frank Ketchum on 18 Jul 2010 22:20 "Tim" <delaney.timothy(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:3531809c-a2d1-48d7-b044-0083ae2680a2(a)g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... > The Old Course at St. Andrews may be steeped in history, > but I would no more want to play it every week than I would > want to drive a Model T. Quite frankly, it's ugly. > > The announcers made all the obligatory comments, and > perhaps links golf has its place in professional competition, > but the vast majority of golfers play the game for enjoyment. > I don't know how one could enjoy playing a course that > looks like a sheep ranch. I guess you don't understand much about the evolution of the game. There is a reason that links courses look like sheep ranches, most of them were at one point. St. Andrews is a course I would love to play before I punch out. > > Treeless might be just fine for Easter island and Haiti, but > a golf course without trees is just barren. (If it weren't for > an occasional patch of gorse, how would you manage to > take a leak?) > > This sort of terrain forces the architect to trick up the > course with insanely punitive bunkers, and crazy slopes. > What kind of sense does it make to penalize the player > a full stroke for being one foot more off line than his > fellow competitor when they both hit it down the > middle of the fairway? Isn't there enough luck in the > game? That is links golf dude. The "architect" in a true links course is God. When old golf courses were built, they left the native terrain alone and basically just made some greens. This was all done by hand and by horses with scrapes. They did not have the technology to build or remove large amounts of offensive mounding easily so they didn't. If you don't think there is any sense in penalizing the player by missing a foot, then how in the world do you watch a US Open? They do it on purpose there. > But I must say that Oosty (I dare not attempt to spell > his name) was just magnificent. I was particularly > appreciative of how he played 17. True dat!
From: dsc-ky on 18 Jul 2010 22:34
> If you don't think there is any sense in penalizing the player by missing a > foot, then how in the world do you watch a US Open? They do it on purpose > there. Furthermore, I get penalized very often for missing a putt by a foot, when my buddy knocked his in. :) St, Andrews and all the old courses are different. Doesn't have to be better or worse, more or less fair, etc... just different. I can see that some people probably wouldn't like it... and that's fine. I'm not sure what I would think of playing those courses all the time, but I sure as hell would like to try it once. |