From: Jim Lovejoy on 17 Jul 2010 01:03 "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote in news:8abbb6F5ofU1(a)mid.individual.net: > > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4c3fda8d$0$4832$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:10:28 -0500, Moderate wrote: >>> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message >>> news:wclark2-07DCD2.18063014072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... >>>> In article <8a6qd2FmquU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW" >>>> <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>>> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:wclark2-412DC5.17240414072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... >>>>>> In article <8a600oFgqnU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW" >>>>>> <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:4upp369u8o0toh3iqtkoibrcvmle7qr7p5(a)4ax.com... >>>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:43:58 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell >>>>>>>> <nobody(a)mixmaster.it> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How does it feel democrats? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Having a president more conservative than Reagan? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There hasn't been a conservative president SINCE Reagan. And >>>>>>> anyone who claims Obama to be conservative, is, well, nuts. >>>>>> >>>>>> But his approval rating is still higher than Reagan's was at this >>>>>> stage of his Presidency. >>>>> >>>>> Reagan's low point was 40%. Obama is still in freefall. >>>> >>>> Come on, even you can do better than this lame effort :-) >>> >>> Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist. He >>> is popular in some circles. >> >> It's sad that so many are so clueless. > > Yes, the 2008 election pretty much proved that. > > Right. How could 58 million people be so clueless as to vote for McCain?
From: BAR on 17 Jul 2010 07:40 In article <wclark2-743B32.23283816072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > In article > <1402052590301024432.960095nospam-nomail.com(a)news.suddenlink.net>, > Moderate <nospam(a)nomail.com> wrote: > > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <wclark2-C8B35E.17541816072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > >> > > >> In article <MPG.26aa4885c08b0a3898a109(a)news.giganews.com>, > > >> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> In article <57dbe3a2-b9c8-4d30-8e46- > > >>> b4d14fc8d0bd(a)q22g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com > > > > > says... > > >>>>>>> If I commission a poll then I can report the results as my own. > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> That doesn't make you a pollster. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Sure it does. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> What is a pollster? A guy with a computer and a phone bank and a > > > > > > > bunch > > >>>>> of underpaid people reading from a script? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Most "pollsters" conduct the polls because they are commissioned > > > > > > > to do > > >>>>> so, not because they are generous people. > > >>>> > > >>>> Pollsters are organizations like Gallup and Roper that understand > > > > > > the > > >>>> science of polling and know how to carry out a poll so as to make > > > > > > it > > >>>> as accurate and unbiased as possible. If I hire Roper to conduct a > > >>>> poll for me on a particular question or questions, that doesn't > > > > > > make > > >>>> me a pollster. > > >>> > > >>> Accuracy and unbiased are not always characteristics of polls or > > >>> pollsters. > > >> > > >> Nor is intelligence amongst the respondents. Ever seen one of those > > >> polls where they ask Americans where Germany is? It's pathetic. > > > > > > That says more about the educators than it says about the students. > > > > Educators are Union workers. > > Http://j.mp/97MVOw > > What an imbecilic statement. You can call it imbecillic but, the statement is true.
From: Moderate on 17 Jul 2010 10:29 BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <wclark2-743B32.23283816072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... >> >> In article >> <1402052590301024432.960095nospam-nomail.com(a)news.suddenlink.net>, >> Moderate <nospam(a)nomail.com> wrote: >> >>> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >>>> In article <wclark2-C8B35E.17541816072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- >>>> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... >>>>> >>>>> In article <MPG.26aa4885c08b0a3898a109(a)news.giganews.com>, >>>>> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In article <57dbe3a2-b9c8-4d30-8e46- >>>>>> b4d14fc8d0bd(a)q22g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com >>>>>> says... >>>>>>>>>> If I commission a poll then I can report the results as my > > > > > > > > > > own. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That doesn't make you a pollster. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sure it does. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What is a pollster? A guy with a computer and a phone bank and > > > > > > > > a >>>>>>>> bunch >>>>>>>> of underpaid people reading from a script? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Most "pollsters" conduct the polls because they are > > > > > > > > commissioned >>>>>>>> to do >>>>>>>> so, not because they are generous people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pollsters are organizations like Gallup and Roper that > > > > > > > understand >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> science of polling and know how to carry out a poll so as to > > > > > > > make >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> as accurate and unbiased as possible. If I hire Roper to conduct > > > > > > > a >>>>>>> poll for me on a particular question or questions, that doesn't >>>>>>> make >>>>>>> me a pollster. >>>>>> >>>>>> Accuracy and unbiased are not always characteristics of polls or >>>>>> pollsters. >>>>> >>>>> Nor is intelligence amongst the respondents. Ever seen one of > > > > > those >>>>> polls where they ask Americans where Germany is? It's pathetic. >>>> >>>> That says more about the educators than it says about the students. >>> >>> Educators are Union workers. >>> Http://j.mp/97MVOw >> >> What an imbecilic statement. > > You can call it imbecillic but, the statement is true. Clark habitually deals with the truth by dismissing it and calling everyone stupid. He is quite predictable.
From: William Clark on 17 Jul 2010 10:42 In article <1738074782301069390.453001nospam-nomail.com(a)news.suddenlink.net>, Moderate <nospam(a)nomail.com> wrote: > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > In article <wclark2-743B32.23283816072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > >> > >> In article > >> <1402052590301024432.960095nospam-nomail.com(a)news.suddenlink.net>, > >> Moderate <nospam(a)nomail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >>>> In article <wclark2-C8B35E.17541816072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > >>>> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > >>>>> > >>>>> In article <MPG.26aa4885c08b0a3898a109(a)news.giganews.com>, > >>>>> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> In article <57dbe3a2-b9c8-4d30-8e46- > >>>>>> b4d14fc8d0bd(a)q22g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com > >>>>>> says... > >>>>>>>>>> If I commission a poll then I can report the results as my > > > > > > > > > > > own. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> That doesn't make you a pollster. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sure it does. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> What is a pollster? A guy with a computer and a phone bank and > > > > > > > > > a > >>>>>>>> bunch > >>>>>>>> of underpaid people reading from a script? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Most "pollsters" conduct the polls because they are > > > > > > > > > commissioned > >>>>>>>> to do > >>>>>>>> so, not because they are generous people. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Pollsters are organizations like Gallup and Roper that > > > > > > > > understand > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> science of polling and know how to carry out a poll so as to > > > > > > > > make > >>>>>>> it > >>>>>>> as accurate and unbiased as possible. If I hire Roper to conduct > > > > > > > > a > >>>>>>> poll for me on a particular question or questions, that doesn't > >>>>>>> make > >>>>>>> me a pollster. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Accuracy and unbiased are not always characteristics of polls or > >>>>>> pollsters. > >>>>> > >>>>> Nor is intelligence amongst the respondents. Ever seen one of > > > > > > those > >>>>> polls where they ask Americans where Germany is? It's pathetic. > >>>> > >>>> That says more about the educators than it says about the students. > >>> > >>> Educators are Union workers. > >>> Http://j.mp/97MVOw > >> > >> What an imbecilic statement. > > > > You can call it imbecillic but, the statement is true. > > Clark habitually deals with the truth by dismissing it and calling > everyone stupid. > > He is quite predictable. You are clearly incapable of comprehending that there are multiple levels of "educator". No surprise, though, since the system seems to have left you unaffected.
From: William Clark on 17 Jul 2010 10:42
In article <MPG.26ab60cc2daad4af98a10f(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <wclark2-743B32.23283816072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > > > In article > > <1402052590301024432.960095nospam-nomail.com(a)news.suddenlink.net>, > > Moderate <nospam(a)nomail.com> wrote: > > > > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > In article <wclark2-C8B35E.17541816072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > > >> > > > >> In article <MPG.26aa4885c08b0a3898a109(a)news.giganews.com>, > > > >> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> In article <57dbe3a2-b9c8-4d30-8e46- > > > >>> b4d14fc8d0bd(a)q22g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com > > > > > > says... > > > >>>>>>> If I commission a poll then I can report the results as my own. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> That doesn't make you a pollster. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Sure it does. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> What is a pollster? A guy with a computer and a phone bank and a > > > > > > > > bunch > > > >>>>> of underpaid people reading from a script? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Most "pollsters" conduct the polls because they are commissioned > > > > > > > > to do > > > >>>>> so, not because they are generous people. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Pollsters are organizations like Gallup and Roper that understand > > > > > > > the > > > >>>> science of polling and know how to carry out a poll so as to make > > > > > > > it > > > >>>> as accurate and unbiased as possible. If I hire Roper to conduct a > > > >>>> poll for me on a particular question or questions, that doesn't > > > > > > > make > > > >>>> me a pollster. > > > >>> > > > >>> Accuracy and unbiased are not always characteristics of polls or > > > >>> pollsters. > > > >> > > > >> Nor is intelligence amongst the respondents. Ever seen one of those > > > >> polls where they ask Americans where Germany is? It's pathetic. > > > > > > > > That says more about the educators than it says about the students. > > > > > > Educators are Union workers. > > > Http://j.mp/97MVOw > > > > What an imbecilic statement. > > You can call it imbecillic but, the statement is true. You are clearly incapable of comprehending that there are multiple levels of "educator". |