Obama approval rating sinks to 43%
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From: Moderate on 17 Jul 2010 10:46 William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > In article > <1738074782301069390.453001nospam-nomail.com(a)news.suddenlink.net>, > Moderate <nospam(a)nomail.com> wrote: > >> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >>> In article <wclark2-743B32.23283816072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- >>> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... >>>> >>>> In article >>>> <1402052590301024432.960095nospam-nomail.com(a)news.suddenlink.net>, >>>> Moderate <nospam(a)nomail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >>>>>> In article <wclark2-C8B35E.17541816072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- >>>>>> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In article <MPG.26aa4885c08b0a3898a109(a)news.giganews.com>, >>>>>>> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In article <57dbe3a2-b9c8-4d30-8e46- >>>>>>>> b4d14fc8d0bd(a)q22g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com >>>>>>>> says... >>>>>>>>>>>> If I commission a poll then I can report the results as my >>>>>>>>>>>> own. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't make you a pollster. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sure it does. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What is a pollster? A guy with a computer and a phone bank > > > > > > > > > > and >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> bunch >>>>>>>>>> of underpaid people reading from a script? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Most "pollsters" conduct the polls because they are >>>>>>>>>> commissioned >>>>>>>>>> to do >>>>>>>>>> so, not because they are generous people. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pollsters are organizations like Gallup and Roper that >>>>>>>>> understand >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> science of polling and know how to carry out a poll so as to >>>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> as accurate and unbiased as possible. If I hire Roper to > > > > > > > > > conduct >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> poll for me on a particular question or questions, that > > > > > > > > > doesn't >>>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>>> me a pollster. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Accuracy and unbiased are not always characteristics of polls > > > > > > > > or >>>>>>>> pollsters. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nor is intelligence amongst the respondents. Ever seen one of >>>>>>> those >>>>>>> polls where they ask Americans where Germany is? It's pathetic. >>>>>> >>>>>> That says more about the educators than it says about the > > > > > > students. >>>>> >>>>> Educators are Union workers. >>>>> Http://j.mp/97MVOw >>>> >>>> What an imbecilic statement. >>> >>> You can call it imbecillic but, the statement is true. >> >> Clark habitually deals with the truth by dismissing it and calling >> everyone stupid. >> >> He is quite predictable. > > You are clearly incapable of comprehending that there are multiple > levels of "educator". > > No surprise, though, since the system seems to have left you > unaffected. Right in cue. Thanks for making my point.
From: BAR on 17 Jul 2010 11:07 In article <wclark2-765561.10423117072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Accuracy and unbiased are not always characteristics of polls or > > > > >>> pollsters. > > > > >> > > > > >> Nor is intelligence amongst the respondents. Ever seen one of those > > > > >> polls where they ask Americans where Germany is? It's pathetic. > > > > > > > > > > That says more about the educators than it says about the students. > > > > > > > > Educators are Union workers. > > > > Http://j.mp/97MVOw > > > > > > What an imbecilic statement. > > > > You can call it imbecillic but, the statement is true. > > > You are clearly incapable of comprehending that there are multiple > levels of "educator". > Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, teach others to teach. The education system in the US from primary through post-secondary is full of people who are only interested in self preservation. When performance based criteria is brought up as an issue educators whine and complain that it is unfair to hold them to a standard.
From: William Clark on 17 Jul 2010 12:31 In article <1140698141301070715.113119nospam-nomail.com(a)news.suddenlink.net>, Moderate <nospam(a)nomail.com> wrote: > William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > > In article > > <1738074782301069390.453001nospam-nomail.com(a)news.suddenlink.net>, > > Moderate <nospam(a)nomail.com> wrote: > > > >> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >>> In article <wclark2-743B32.23283816072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > >>> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > >>>> > >>>> In article > >>>> <1402052590301024432.960095nospam-nomail.com(a)news.suddenlink.net>, > >>>> Moderate <nospam(a)nomail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >>>>>> In article <wclark2-C8B35E.17541816072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > >>>>>> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> In article <MPG.26aa4885c08b0a3898a109(a)news.giganews.com>, > >>>>>>> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> In article <57dbe3a2-b9c8-4d30-8e46- > >>>>>>>> b4d14fc8d0bd(a)q22g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com > >>>>>>>> says... > >>>>>>>>>>>> If I commission a poll then I can report the results as my > >>>>>>>>>>>> own. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't make you a pollster. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Sure it does. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> What is a pollster? A guy with a computer and a phone bank > > > > > > > > > > > and > >>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>> bunch > >>>>>>>>>> of underpaid people reading from a script? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Most "pollsters" conduct the polls because they are > >>>>>>>>>> commissioned > >>>>>>>>>> to do > >>>>>>>>>> so, not because they are generous people. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Pollsters are organizations like Gallup and Roper that > >>>>>>>>> understand > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> science of polling and know how to carry out a poll so as to > >>>>>>>>> make > >>>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>> as accurate and unbiased as possible. If I hire Roper to > > > > > > > > > > conduct > >>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>> poll for me on a particular question or questions, that > > > > > > > > > > doesn't > >>>>>>>>> make > >>>>>>>>> me a pollster. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Accuracy and unbiased are not always characteristics of polls > > > > > > > > > or > >>>>>>>> pollsters. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Nor is intelligence amongst the respondents. Ever seen one of > >>>>>>> those > >>>>>>> polls where they ask Americans where Germany is? It's pathetic. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> That says more about the educators than it says about the > > > > > > > students. > >>>>> > >>>>> Educators are Union workers. > >>>>> Http://j.mp/97MVOw > >>>> > >>>> What an imbecilic statement. > >>> > >>> You can call it imbecillic but, the statement is true. > >> > >> Clark habitually deals with the truth by dismissing it and calling > >> everyone stupid. > >> > >> He is quite predictable. > > > > You are clearly incapable of comprehending that there are multiple > > levels of "educator". > > > > No surprise, though, since the system seems to have left you > > unaffected. > > Right in cue. Thanks for making my point. I think that should read "right ON cue". You make my point succinctly about your minimal interaction with the education process.
From: William Clark on 17 Jul 2010 12:33 In article <MPG.26ab914052d1b68098a114(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <wclark2-765561.10423117072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Accuracy and unbiased are not always characteristics of polls or > > > > > >>> pollsters. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Nor is intelligence amongst the respondents. Ever seen one of > > > > > >> those > > > > > >> polls where they ask Americans where Germany is? It's pathetic. > > > > > > > > > > > > That says more about the educators than it says about the students. > > > > > > > > > > Educators are Union workers. > > > > > Http://j.mp/97MVOw > > > > > > > > What an imbecilic statement. > > > > > > You can call it imbecillic but, the statement is true. > > > > > > You are clearly incapable of comprehending that there are multiple > > levels of "educator". > > > > Those who can, do. > > Those who can't, teach. > > Those who can't teach, teach others to teach. > > The education system in the US from primary through post-secondary is > full of people who are only interested in self preservation. When > performance based criteria is brought up as an issue educators whine and > complain that it is unfair to hold them to a standard. From someone whose only ambition in life is to retire, and so stop contributing, this is priceless.
From: BAR on 17 Jul 2010 13:38
In article <wclark2-F5B1F6.12332317072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > In article <MPG.26ab914052d1b68098a114(a)news.giganews.com>, > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <wclark2-765561.10423117072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Accuracy and unbiased are not always characteristics of polls or > > > > > > >>> pollsters. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Nor is intelligence amongst the respondents. Ever seen one of > > > > > > >> those > > > > > > >> polls where they ask Americans where Germany is? It's pathetic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That says more about the educators than it says about the students. > > > > > > > > > > > > Educators are Union workers. > > > > > > Http://j.mp/97MVOw > > > > > > > > > > What an imbecilic statement. > > > > > > > > You can call it imbecillic but, the statement is true. > > > > > > > > > You are clearly incapable of comprehending that there are multiple > > > levels of "educator". > > > > > > > Those who can, do. > > > > Those who can't, teach. > > > > Those who can't teach, teach others to teach. > > > > The education system in the US from primary through post-secondary is > > full of people who are only interested in self preservation. When > > performance based criteria is brought up as an issue educators whine and > > complain that it is unfair to hold them to a standard. > > From someone whose only ambition in life is to retire, and so stop > contributing, this is priceless. Set goals and achieve them. You set yours and I'll set mine. |