From: BAR on
In article <24d88718-687c-4589-a2b7-bf64fef97962
@r27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
>
> On Jul 15, 8:11�am, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> > "Howard Brazee" <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
> >
> > news:4kds36la99a4a4usig6cn6ep0rp1sadrnl(a)4ax.com...
> >
> > > On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 09:30:47 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >>> Having a president more conservative than Reagan?
> >
> > >>There hasn't been a conservative president SINCE Reagan. And anyone who
> > >>claims Obama to be conservative, is, well, nuts.
> >
> > > Is it the tax rates during Reagan's administration conservatives want
> > > to go back to? � His military record?
> >
> > I would like to go back to his ruination of the Soviet Union. �Good times.
>
> Reagan was one of many players in the ruination of the USSR. Most of
> the others were in Moscow.

Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev
From: William Clark on
In article <i1n8lq$f0s$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
"Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:

> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:wclark2-F0D8C8.11040115072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > In article <i1n5rj$a53$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:wclark2-85E3D7.08393715072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >> > In article <i1mtrh$su1$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> >> > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:wclark2-07DCD2.18063014072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >> >> > In article <8a6qd2FmquU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> >> >> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:wclark2-412DC5.17240414072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >> >> >> > In article <8a600oFgqnU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> >> >> >> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> news:4upp369u8o0toh3iqtkoibrcvmle7qr7p5(a)4ax.com...
> >> >> >> >> > On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:43:58 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell
> >> >> >> >> > <nobody(a)mixmaster.it> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>How does it feel democrats?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Having a president more conservative than Reagan?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> There hasn't been a conservative president SINCE Reagan. And
> >> >> >> >> anyone
> >> >> >> >> who
> >> >> >> >> claims Obama to be conservative, is, well, nuts.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > But his approval rating is still higher than Reagan's was at this
> >> >> >> > stage
> >> >> >> > of his Presidency.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Reagan's low point was 40%. Obama is still in freefall.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Come on, even you can do better than this lame effort :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist. He
> >> >> is
> >> >> popular in some circles.
> >> >
> >> > Oh, now there's an unbiased, well informed "poll". By who? The TEA
> >> > party? You wouldn't know a socialist if he came up and bit you.
> >>
> >> The poll was conducted by James Carville.
> >
> > So you suddenly trust Carville? Wow, stop the presses.
>
> Is that all you got?
>
> I trust Carville is trying to undermine Obama to clear the way for a
> challenge by Hillary.

Actually, this is more a reflection of the pitiful state of ignorance of
the American public about politics than anything else.

Oh, well, Wall Street reform got passed today. Enjoy!
From: BAR on
In article <eddf55b0-bf91-462b-b7d2-
f3d92728abef(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
> >
> > >> Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist. �He is
> > >> popular in some circles.
> >
> > > Oh, now there's an unbiased, well informed "poll". By who? The TEA
> > > party? You wouldn't know a socialist if he came up and bit you.
> >
> > The poll was conducted by James Carville.
>
> Carville is not a pollster.
>

http://www.democracycorps.com/ says different.
From: Moderate on
William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:
> In article <i1n8lq$f0s$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
>
>> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:wclark2-F0D8C8.11040115072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>>> In article <i1n5rj$a53$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
>>> "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:wclark2-85E3D7.08393715072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>>>>> In article <i1mtrh$su1$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
>>>>> "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:wclark2-07DCD2.18063014072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>>>>>>> In article <8a6qd2FmquU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
>>>>>>> "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in
> > > > > > > > message
>>>>>>>> news:wclark2-412DC5.17240414072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>>>>>>>>> In article <8a600oFgqnU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
>>>>>>>>> "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:4upp369u8o0toh3iqtkoibrcvmle7qr7p5(a)4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:43:58 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell
>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody(a)mixmaster.it> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How does it feel democrats?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Having a president more conservative than Reagan?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There hasn't been a conservative president SINCE Reagan. And
>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>> claims Obama to be conservative, is, well, nuts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But his approval rating is still higher than Reagan's was at
> > > > > > > > > this
>>>>>>>>> stage
>>>>>>>>> of his Presidency.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reagan's low point was 40%. Obama is still in freefall.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Come on, even you can do better than this lame effort :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a
> > > > > > socialist. He
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> popular in some circles.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, now there's an unbiased, well informed "poll". By who? The TEA
>>>>> party? You wouldn't know a socialist if he came up and bit you.
>>>>
>>>> The poll was conducted by James Carville.
>>>
>>> So you suddenly trust Carville? Wow, stop the presses.
>>
>> Is that all you got?
>>
>> I trust Carville is trying to undermine Obama to clear the way for a
>> challenge by Hillary.
>
> Actually, this is more a reflection of the pitiful state of ignorance
> of
> the American public about politics than anything else.
>
> Oh, well, Wall Street reform got passed today. Enjoy!

Ah, we are going with Americans are stupid excuse again. Blame can be an
effective political strategy.
From: Don Kirkman on
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:23:15 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

>In article <eddf55b0-bf91-462b-b7d2-
>f3d92728abef(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...

>> > >> Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist. �He is
>> > >> popular in some circles.

>> > > Oh, now there's an unbiased, well informed "poll". By who? The TEA
>> > > party? You wouldn't know a socialist if he came up and bit you.

>> > The poll was conducted by James Carville.

>> Carville is not a pollster.

>http://www.democracycorps.com/ says different.

Discussing polls and surveys does not make him a pollster.
--
Don Kirkman
donsno2(a)charter.net