From: John B. on
On Jul 15, 2:20 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:eddf55b0-bf91-462b-b7d2-f3d92728abef(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 15, 10:27 am, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "William Clark" <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:wclark2-85E3D7.08393715072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>
> > > In article <i1mtrh$su...(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> > > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> "William Clark" <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:wclark2-07DCD2.18063014072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > >> > In article <8a6qd2Fmq...(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > >> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >> "William Clark" <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > >> >>news:wclark2-412DC5.17240414072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu....
> > >> >> > In article <8a600oFgq...(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > >> >> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >> >> "Howard Brazee" <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> >>news:4upp369u8o0toh3iqtkoibrcvmle7qr7p5(a)4ax.com...
> > >> >> >> > On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:43:58 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell
> > >> >> >> > <nob...(a)mixmaster.it> wrote:
>
> > >> >> >> >>How does it feel democrats?
>
> > >> >> >> > Having a president more conservative than Reagan?
>
> > >> >> >> There hasn't been a conservative president SINCE Reagan. And
> > >> >> >> anyone
> > >> >> >> who
> > >> >> >> claims Obama to be conservative, is, well, nuts.
>
> > >> >> > But his approval rating is still higher than Reagan's was at this
> > >> >> > stage
> > >> >> > of his Presidency.
>
> > >> >> Reagan's low point was 40%. Obama is still in freefall.
>
> > >> > Come on, even you can do better than this lame effort :-)
>
> > >> Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist. He
> > >> is
> > >> popular in some circles.
>
> > > Oh, now there's an unbiased, well informed "poll". By who? The TEA
> > > party? You wouldn't know a socialist if he came up and bit you.
>
> > The poll was conducted by James Carville.
>
> Carville is not a pollster.
> ******************************************************
>
> Obviously he is.

Really? What polling firm does he run?
From: John B. on
On Jul 15, 3:35 pm, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:10:28 -0500, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist.  He is
> >popular in some circles.
>
> "A lie told often enough becomes truth" Vladimir Lenin.
>
> His health care plan is more conservative than the one Nixon proposed.

No it isn't.

> He taxes the rich much less than Reagan did.

Congress levies taxes, not the president.

> He increased the budget proportionally much less than Reagan did.
>
And that makes him a conservative?


> --
> "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
> than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
> to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
>
> - James Madison

From: John B. on
On Jul 15, 5:25 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> "Howard Brazee" <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
>
> news:cqsu369u75l80itcqeau1fcqe34cbm91jt(a)4ax.com...> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:48:06 -0500, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >>>>Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist.  He
> >>>>is
> >>>>popular in some circles.
>
> >>> "A lie told often enough becomes truth" Vladimir Lenin.
>
> >>"Perception is reality." Me
>
> > Whether or not the facts support what is perceived.
>
> With his approval numbers hitting new lows it's no surprise that Barack
> Obama's numbers in our monthly look ahead to the 2012 Presidential race are
> their worst ever this month. He trails Mitt Romney 46-43, Mike Huckabee
> 47-45, Newt Gingrich 46-45, and is even tied with Sarah Palin at 46. The
> only person tested he leads is Jan Brewer, who doesn't have particularly
> high name recognition on the national level at this point.
>
> http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/15/ppp-obama-palin-tied-4646-in-20...

Testing these match-ups 2 1/2 years before an election is a ridiculous
waste of time. These numbers mean absolutely nothing.
From: John B. on
On Jul 15, 6:23 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <eddf55b0-bf91-462b-b7d2-
> f3d92728a...(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
>
>
>
> > > >> Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist.  He is
> > > >> popular in some circles.
>
> > > > Oh, now there's an unbiased, well informed "poll". By who? The TEA
> > > > party? You wouldn't know a socialist if he came up and bit you.
>
> > > The poll was conducted by James Carville.
>
> > Carville is not a pollster.
>
> http://www.democracycorps.com/says different.

If you look a little more closely, you'll see that Carville's
Democracy Corps is reporting the results of other polls. It doesn't
conduct its own.
From: William Clark on
In article
<303522432300926163.482003nospam-nomail.com(a)news.suddenlink.net>,
Moderate <nospam(a)nomail.com> wrote:

> William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:
> > In article <i1n8lq$f0s$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:wclark2-F0D8C8.11040115072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >>> In article <i1n5rj$a53$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> >>> "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:wclark2-85E3D7.08393715072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >>>>> In article <i1mtrh$su1$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
> >>>>> "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:wclark2-07DCD2.18063014072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >>>>>>> In article <8a6qd2FmquU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> >>>>>>> "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in
> > > > > > > > > message
> >>>>>>>> news:wclark2-412DC5.17240414072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >>>>>>>>> In article <8a600oFgqnU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> >>>>>>>>> "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> "Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>> news:4upp369u8o0toh3iqtkoibrcvmle7qr7p5(a)4ax.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:43:58 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell
> >>>>>>>>>>> <nobody(a)mixmaster.it> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> How does it feel democrats?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Having a president more conservative than Reagan?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> There hasn't been a conservative president SINCE Reagan. And
> >>>>>>>>>> anyone
> >>>>>>>>>> who
> >>>>>>>>>> claims Obama to be conservative, is, well, nuts.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> But his approval rating is still higher than Reagan's was at
> > > > > > > > > > this
> >>>>>>>>> stage
> >>>>>>>>> of his Presidency.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Reagan's low point was 40%. Obama is still in freefall.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Come on, even you can do better than this lame effort :-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a
> > > > > > > socialist. He
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>> popular in some circles.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Oh, now there's an unbiased, well informed "poll". By who? The TEA
> >>>>> party? You wouldn't know a socialist if he came up and bit you.
> >>>>
> >>>> The poll was conducted by James Carville.
> >>>
> >>> So you suddenly trust Carville? Wow, stop the presses.
> >>
> >> Is that all you got?
> >>
> >> I trust Carville is trying to undermine Obama to clear the way for a
> >> challenge by Hillary.
> >
> > Actually, this is more a reflection of the pitiful state of ignorance
> > of
> > the American public about politics than anything else.
> >
> > Oh, well, Wall Street reform got passed today. Enjoy!
>
> Ah, we are going with Americans are stupid excuse again. Blame can be an
> effective political strategy.

Excuse me, but anyone who confuses Obama with a socialist is just that -
stupid.

If the cap fits . . .