From: John B. on 15 Jul 2010 20:46 On Jul 15, 2:20 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:eddf55b0-bf91-462b-b7d2-f3d92728abef(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 15, 10:27 am, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > > > > > "William Clark" <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > > >news:wclark2-85E3D7.08393715072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > > > In article <i1mtrh$su...(a)speranza.aioe.org>, > > > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > > > >> "William Clark" <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > > >>news:wclark2-07DCD2.18063014072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > >> > In article <8a6qd2Fmq...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > >> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > >> >> "William Clark" <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > > >> >>news:wclark2-412DC5.17240414072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu.... > > >> >> > In article <8a600oFgq...(a)mid.individual.net>, > > >> >> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > >> >> >> "Howard Brazee" <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote in message > > >> >> >>news:4upp369u8o0toh3iqtkoibrcvmle7qr7p5(a)4ax.com... > > >> >> >> > On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:43:58 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell > > >> >> >> > <nob...(a)mixmaster.it> wrote: > > > >> >> >> >>How does it feel democrats? > > > >> >> >> > Having a president more conservative than Reagan? > > > >> >> >> There hasn't been a conservative president SINCE Reagan. And > > >> >> >> anyone > > >> >> >> who > > >> >> >> claims Obama to be conservative, is, well, nuts. > > > >> >> > But his approval rating is still higher than Reagan's was at this > > >> >> > stage > > >> >> > of his Presidency. > > > >> >> Reagan's low point was 40%. Obama is still in freefall. > > > >> > Come on, even you can do better than this lame effort :-) > > > >> Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist. He > > >> is > > >> popular in some circles. > > > > Oh, now there's an unbiased, well informed "poll". By who? The TEA > > > party? You wouldn't know a socialist if he came up and bit you. > > > The poll was conducted by James Carville. > > Carville is not a pollster. > ****************************************************** > > Obviously he is. Really? What polling firm does he run?
From: John B. on 15 Jul 2010 20:48 On Jul 15, 3:35 pm, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:10:28 -0500, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> > wrote: > > >Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist. He is > >popular in some circles. > > "A lie told often enough becomes truth" Vladimir Lenin. > > His health care plan is more conservative than the one Nixon proposed. No it isn't. > He taxes the rich much less than Reagan did. Congress levies taxes, not the president. > He increased the budget proportionally much less than Reagan did. > And that makes him a conservative? > -- > "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, > than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace > to the legislature, and not to the executive department." > > - James Madison
From: John B. on 15 Jul 2010 20:51 On Jul 15, 5:25 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > "Howard Brazee" <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote in message > > news:cqsu369u75l80itcqeau1fcqe34cbm91jt(a)4ax.com...> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:48:06 -0500, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> > > wrote: > > >>>>Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist. He > >>>>is > >>>>popular in some circles. > > >>> "A lie told often enough becomes truth" Vladimir Lenin. > > >>"Perception is reality." Me > > > Whether or not the facts support what is perceived. > > With his approval numbers hitting new lows it's no surprise that Barack > Obama's numbers in our monthly look ahead to the 2012 Presidential race are > their worst ever this month. He trails Mitt Romney 46-43, Mike Huckabee > 47-45, Newt Gingrich 46-45, and is even tied with Sarah Palin at 46. The > only person tested he leads is Jan Brewer, who doesn't have particularly > high name recognition on the national level at this point. > > http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/15/ppp-obama-palin-tied-4646-in-20... Testing these match-ups 2 1/2 years before an election is a ridiculous waste of time. These numbers mean absolutely nothing.
From: John B. on 15 Jul 2010 20:54 On Jul 15, 6:23 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <eddf55b0-bf91-462b-b7d2- > f3d92728a...(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > >> Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist. He is > > > >> popular in some circles. > > > > > Oh, now there's an unbiased, well informed "poll". By who? The TEA > > > > party? You wouldn't know a socialist if he came up and bit you. > > > > The poll was conducted by James Carville. > > > Carville is not a pollster. > > http://www.democracycorps.com/says different. If you look a little more closely, you'll see that Carville's Democracy Corps is reporting the results of other polls. It doesn't conduct its own.
From: William Clark on 15 Jul 2010 21:01
In article <303522432300926163.482003nospam-nomail.com(a)news.suddenlink.net>, Moderate <nospam(a)nomail.com> wrote: > William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > > In article <i1n8lq$f0s$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, > > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > > > >> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > >> news:wclark2-F0D8C8.11040115072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > >>> In article <i1n5rj$a53$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, > >>> "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > >>>> news:wclark2-85E3D7.08393715072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > >>>>> In article <i1mtrh$su1$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, > >>>>> "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > >>>>>> news:wclark2-07DCD2.18063014072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > >>>>>>> In article <8a6qd2FmquU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > >>>>>>> "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in > > > > > > > > > message > >>>>>>>> news:wclark2-412DC5.17240414072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > >>>>>>>>> In article <8a600oFgqnU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > >>>>>>>>> "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> "Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>>> news:4upp369u8o0toh3iqtkoibrcvmle7qr7p5(a)4ax.com... > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:43:58 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell > >>>>>>>>>>> <nobody(a)mixmaster.it> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> How does it feel democrats? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Having a president more conservative than Reagan? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> There hasn't been a conservative president SINCE Reagan. And > >>>>>>>>>> anyone > >>>>>>>>>> who > >>>>>>>>>> claims Obama to be conservative, is, well, nuts. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> But his approval rating is still higher than Reagan's was at > > > > > > > > > > this > >>>>>>>>> stage > >>>>>>>>> of his Presidency. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Reagan's low point was 40%. Obama is still in freefall. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Come on, even you can do better than this lame effort :-) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a > > > > > > > socialist. He > >>>>>> is > >>>>>> popular in some circles. > >>>>> > >>>>> Oh, now there's an unbiased, well informed "poll". By who? The TEA > >>>>> party? You wouldn't know a socialist if he came up and bit you. > >>>> > >>>> The poll was conducted by James Carville. > >>> > >>> So you suddenly trust Carville? Wow, stop the presses. > >> > >> Is that all you got? > >> > >> I trust Carville is trying to undermine Obama to clear the way for a > >> challenge by Hillary. > > > > Actually, this is more a reflection of the pitiful state of ignorance > > of > > the American public about politics than anything else. > > > > Oh, well, Wall Street reform got passed today. Enjoy! > > Ah, we are going with Americans are stupid excuse again. Blame can be an > effective political strategy. Excuse me, but anyone who confuses Obama with a socialist is just that - stupid. If the cap fits . . . |