From: BAR on
In article <b585477e-c015-47c6-8205-41594819fa21
@g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
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> On Jul 15, 6:23�pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > In article <eddf55b0-bf91-462b-b7d2-
> > f3d92728a...(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
> >
> >
> >
> > > > >> Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist. �He is
> > > > >> popular in some circles.
> >
> > > > > Oh, now there's an unbiased, well informed "poll". By who? The TEA
> > > > > party? You wouldn't know a socialist if he came up and bit you.
> >
> > > > The poll was conducted by James Carville.
> >
> > > Carville is not a pollster.
> >
> > http://www.democracycorps.com/says different.
>
> If you look a little more closely, you'll see that Carville's
> Democracy Corps is reporting the results of other polls. It doesn't
> conduct its own.

If I commission a poll then I can report the results as my own.
From: Carbon on
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:10:28 -0500, Moderate wrote:
> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:wclark2-07DCD2.18063014072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>> In article <8a6qd2FmquU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW"
>> <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:wclark2-412DC5.17240414072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>>>> In article <8a600oFgqnU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW"
>>>> <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:4upp369u8o0toh3iqtkoibrcvmle7qr7p5(a)4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:43:58 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell
>>>>>> <nobody(a)mixmaster.it> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How does it feel democrats?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having a president more conservative than Reagan?
>>>>>
>>>>> There hasn't been a conservative president SINCE Reagan. And
>>>>> anyone who claims Obama to be conservative, is, well, nuts.
>>>>
>>>> But his approval rating is still higher than Reagan's was at this
>>>> stage of his Presidency.
>>>
>>> Reagan's low point was 40%. Obama is still in freefall.
>>
>> Come on, even you can do better than this lame effort :-)
>
> Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist. He
> is popular in some circles.

It's sad that so many are so clueless.
From: John B. on
On Jul 15, 9:42 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <b585477e-c015-47c6-8205-41594819fa21
> @g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
>
>
>
>
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>
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> > On Jul 15, 6:23 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > In article <eddf55b0-bf91-462b-b7d2-
> > > f3d92728a...(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
>
> > > > > >> Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist.  He is
> > > > > >> popular in some circles.
>
> > > > > > Oh, now there's an unbiased, well informed "poll". By who? The TEA
> > > > > > party? You wouldn't know a socialist if he came up and bit you.
>
> > > > > The poll was conducted by James Carville.
>
> > > > Carville is not a pollster.
>
> > >http://www.democracycorps.com/saysdifferent.
>
> > If you look a little more closely, you'll see that Carville's
> > Democracy Corps is reporting the results of other polls. It doesn't
> > conduct its own.
>
> If I commission a poll then I can report the results as my own.

That doesn't make you a pollster.
From: Moderate on

"Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4c3fda8d$0$4832$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:10:28 -0500, Moderate wrote:
>> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:wclark2-07DCD2.18063014072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>>> In article <8a6qd2FmquU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW"
>>> <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:wclark2-412DC5.17240414072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>>>>> In article <8a600oFgqnU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW"
>>>>> <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:4upp369u8o0toh3iqtkoibrcvmle7qr7p5(a)4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:43:58 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell
>>>>>>> <nobody(a)mixmaster.it> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How does it feel democrats?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Having a president more conservative than Reagan?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There hasn't been a conservative president SINCE Reagan. And
>>>>>> anyone who claims Obama to be conservative, is, well, nuts.
>>>>>
>>>>> But his approval rating is still higher than Reagan's was at this
>>>>> stage of his Presidency.
>>>>
>>>> Reagan's low point was 40%. Obama is still in freefall.
>>>
>>> Come on, even you can do better than this lame effort :-)
>>
>> Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist. He
>> is popular in some circles.
>
> It's sad that so many are so clueless.

Avoided the issue, went right for the personal insult. A Carbon trademark.


From: William Clark on
In article <i1pmk3$c94$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>,
"Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:

> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4c3fda8d$0$4832$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> > On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:10:28 -0500, Moderate wrote:
> >> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:wclark2-07DCD2.18063014072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >>> In article <8a6qd2FmquU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW"
> >>> <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >>>> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:wclark2-412DC5.17240414072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >>>>> In article <8a600oFgqnU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW"
> >>>>> <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> "Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:4upp369u8o0toh3iqtkoibrcvmle7qr7p5(a)4ax.com...
> >>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:43:58 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell
> >>>>>>> <nobody(a)mixmaster.it> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> How does it feel democrats?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Having a president more conservative than Reagan?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There hasn't been a conservative president SINCE Reagan. And
> >>>>>> anyone who claims Obama to be conservative, is, well, nuts.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But his approval rating is still higher than Reagan's was at this
> >>>>> stage of his Presidency.
> >>>>
> >>>> Reagan's low point was 40%. Obama is still in freefall.
> >>>
> >>> Come on, even you can do better than this lame effort :-)
> >>
> >> Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist. He
> >> is popular in some circles.
> >
> > It's sad that so many are so clueless.
>
> Avoided the issue, went right for the personal insult. A Carbon trademark.

"Personal insult"? Where do you get that from? He is just making an
obvious interpretation. It's what you have to do with data.