Obama approval rating sinks to 43%
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From: Howard Brazee on 16 Jul 2010 09:55 On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:48:25 -0700 (PDT), "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> His health care plan is more conservative than the one Nixon proposed. > >No it isn't. It's using private insurance. >> He taxes the rich much less than Reagan did. > >Congress levies taxes, not the president. > >> He increased the budget proportionally much less than Reagan did. >> >And that makes him a conservative? OK, I'll let you pick criteria that we can look at. I looked at taxes and deficit as those are big in rhetoric, but rhetoric gets trumped by what actually happens. Then we can look and see whether those values were better implemented during one administration or the other. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: BAR on 16 Jul 2010 10:00 In article <24d23bd7-cf89-4580-ae56-45f80627c721 @j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > On Jul 15, 9:42�pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > In article <b585477e-c015-47c6-8205-41594819fa21 > > @g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 6:23�pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > In article <eddf55b0-bf91-462b-b7d2- > > > > f3d92728a...(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > > >> Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist. �He is > > > > > > >> popular in some circles. > > > > > > > > > Oh, now there's an unbiased, well informed "poll". By who? The TEA > > > > > > > party? You wouldn't know a socialist if he came up and bit you. > > > > > > > > The poll was conducted by James Carville. > > > > > > > Carville is not a pollster. > > > > > >http://www.democracycorps.com/saysdifferent. > > > > > If you look a little more closely, you'll see that Carville's > > > Democracy Corps is reporting the results of other polls. It doesn't > > > conduct its own. > > > > If I commission a poll then I can report the results as my own. > > That doesn't make you a pollster. Sure it does. What is a pollster? A guy with a computer and a phone bank and a bunch of underpaid people reading from a script? Most "pollsters" conduct the polls because they are commissioned to do so, not because they are generous people.
From: MNMikeW on 16 Jul 2010 11:13 "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:bb18c5bd-441a-4274-948f-32894eb15c51(a)t10g2000yqg.googlegroups.com... On Jul 15, 5:25 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > "Howard Brazee" <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote in message > > news:cqsu369u75l80itcqeau1fcqe34cbm91jt(a)4ax.com...> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 > 14:48:06 -0500, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> > > wrote: > > >>>>Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist. He > >>>>is > >>>>popular in some circles. > > >>> "A lie told often enough becomes truth" Vladimir Lenin. > > >>"Perception is reality." Me > > > Whether or not the facts support what is perceived. > > With his approval numbers hitting new lows it's no surprise that Barack > Obama's numbers in our monthly look ahead to the 2012 Presidential race > are > their worst ever this month. He trails Mitt Romney 46-43, Mike Huckabee > 47-45, Newt Gingrich 46-45, and is even tied with Sarah Palin at 46. The > only person tested he leads is Jan Brewer, who doesn't have particularly > high name recognition on the national level at this point. > > http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/15/ppp-obama-palin-tied-4646-in-20... Testing these match-ups 2 1/2 years before an election is a ridiculous waste of time. These numbers mean absolutely nothing. ============== Perhaps. But in politics, it's all about the polls.
From: MNMikeW on 16 Jul 2010 11:14 "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4c3fda8d$0$4832$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:10:28 -0500, Moderate wrote: >> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:wclark2-07DCD2.18063014072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... >>> In article <8a6qd2FmquU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW" >>> <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message >>>> news:wclark2-412DC5.17240414072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... >>>>> In article <8a600oFgqnU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW" >>>>> <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4upp369u8o0toh3iqtkoibrcvmle7qr7p5(a)4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:43:58 +0200 (CEST), George Orwell >>>>>>> <nobody(a)mixmaster.it> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How does it feel democrats? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Having a president more conservative than Reagan? >>>>>> >>>>>> There hasn't been a conservative president SINCE Reagan. And >>>>>> anyone who claims Obama to be conservative, is, well, nuts. >>>>> >>>>> But his approval rating is still higher than Reagan's was at this >>>>> stage of his Presidency. >>>> >>>> Reagan's low point was 40%. Obama is still in freefall. >>> >>> Come on, even you can do better than this lame effort :-) >> >> Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist. He >> is popular in some circles. > > It's sad that so many are so clueless. Yes, the 2008 election pretty much proved that.
From: John B. on 16 Jul 2010 11:27
On Jul 16, 10:00 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <24d23bd7-cf89-4580-ae56-45f80627c721 > @j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 9:42 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <b585477e-c015-47c6-8205-41594819fa21 > > > @g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > On Jul 15, 6:23 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > In article <eddf55b0-bf91-462b-b7d2- > > > > > f3d92728a...(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > > >> Latest poll shows 55% of likely voters think Obama is a socialist. He is > > > > > > > >> popular in some circles. > > > > > > > > > Oh, now there's an unbiased, well informed "poll". By who? The TEA > > > > > > > > party? You wouldn't know a socialist if he came up and bit you. > > > > > > > > The poll was conducted by James Carville. > > > > > > > Carville is not a pollster. > > > > > >http://www.democracycorps.com/saysdifferent. > > > > > If you look a little more closely, you'll see that Carville's > > > > Democracy Corps is reporting the results of other polls. It doesn't > > > > conduct its own. > > > > If I commission a poll then I can report the results as my own. > > > That doesn't make you a pollster. > > Sure it does. > > What is a pollster? A guy with a computer and a phone bank and a bunch > of underpaid people reading from a script? > > Most "pollsters" conduct the polls because they are commissioned to do > so, not because they are generous people. Pollsters are organizations like Gallup and Roper that understand the science of polling and know how to carry out a poll so as to make it as accurate and unbiased as possible. If I hire Roper to conduct a poll for me on a particular question or questions, that doesn't make me a pollster. |