From: John B. on 18 Jun 2010 09:00 On Jun 17, 10:43 pm, "Bobster" <bobs...(a)nospam.com> wrote: > <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > > news:sokk16dhm60kc4o9vpg4s44k8cnq1bcdrm(a)4ax.com... > > > > > > > On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:37:36 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> > > wrote: > > > You don't know what you're talking about Mike. > > > Here is some history, which you probably won't take the time to read, > > so here's a quote from the Forbes article. > > > "It's been rough few years for BP. Allegations of illegal propane > > trading. Massive oil spills in Alaska. A deadly explosion at a Texas > > refinery. All this since 2003. Such catastrophes would cripple or kill > > most companies". > > > This doesn't even take into consideration the criminal charges in the > > past. > > >http://alaskadispatch.com/dispatches/energy/5369-bp-still-fighting-fi... > >http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870339920457450503408184... > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7062669.stm > >http://www.forbes.com/2007/10/25/bp-energy-environment-biz-energy-cx_... > > >>> That's real BS. If they could've gotten away with paying a few > >>> thousand bucks, that's what they would do. > > >>>Of course you know this as fact right? No, more BS. > > > No Mike, not BS. Its their history. Take some time with google and > > you'll see. > > > BK > > So if BP is so evil, why doesn't Obama give back the $1 million in campaign > contributions he got from BP? He didn't get anything close to that from BP.
From: John B. on 18 Jun 2010 09:01 On Jun 17, 11:10 pm, Moderate <nos...(a)nomail.comu> wrote: > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Jun 17, 10:04 pm, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > >> On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:39:21 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> > >> wrote: > > >>> So, what are some of your examples of Obama hatred? Seems most of > > > > the > >>> anti-Obama rhetoric here is laughing at his ineptness. Also well > > > > deserved > >>> IMO. > > >> I haven't noticed that. I've seen him accused of being Kenyan. > > > I've > >> seen him accused of being socialist. I've seen him accused of being > >> owned by Big Business. I've seen people angry at him passing bills.. > >> Those seem to be a majority of the anti-Obama rhetoric that I've > > > seen. > > > I've seen a lot about what he supposedly wants to do -- raise your > > taxes, take your guns, turn the country into a socialist utopia, that > > kind of stuff -- but not so much about what he's done. > > What has he done? > > Continue Bush policies in the war against terror. > Reduce my health care and give insurance companies more profits. > Spent Billions on the economy. That's it? That's all you've got? How has he reduced your health care?
From: Alan Illeman on 18 Jun 2010 19:34 Alan Illeman wrote: > According to Forbes BP shares are already shaky, so > wouldn't you have thought that Obama would have had > his meeting with BP CEO Tony Hayward (and reached > an agreement) prior to the White House speech? http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/slippery_oil_jHcruwGmWcmL44ctGff0wO Slippery oil CEO plays dumb? (Tony Hayward)
From: Carbon on 18 Jun 2010 21:17 On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:55:28 -0700, John B. wrote: > On Jun 17, 12:46 pm, Moderate <nos...(a)nomail.comu> wrote: >> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I agree that the administration's response to the oil leak has been >>> less than optimal. But if Obama had done everything his critics say >>> he should have done, the situation in the Gulf would not be >>> appreciably different from what it is now. Right-wingers have >>> attacked him every which way from Tuesday, but they haven't said one >>> harsh word about BP, which is the guilty party. >> >> Sort of like blaming Bush for Katrina, but giving mother nature a >> free pass. I doubt you will understand the comparison. > > Yes, you're right, it went way over my head. I wish I were really > smart like you. There are lots of websites out there who will tell you your IQ is whatever you want, in exchange for a couple of bucks and a valid email address that they can tell to spammers.
From: Carbon on 18 Jun 2010 21:26
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:48:22 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: > "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:d0d22723-28ab-4b91-8425- e1999a05235b(a)x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 16, 8:55 pm, "Alan Illeman" <no...(a)nowhere.ca> wrote: >> bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: >>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:33:17 -0400, "Frank Ketchum" >>> <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: >>> >>>> Clearly you are confusing Obama with someone who has executive >>>> experience. Please try harder next time. >>> >>> He has enough to wring $20 billion out of them. >> >> He didn't wring anything out of them, that's what they offered. > > You really believe that? > > They offered to pay for everything a couple days after it started. Tell me something: why has Beyond Petroleum been massively underestimating the size of the leak? Hmmm? Could it be, oh I don't know, some sort of ploy to reduce any potential legal liability? |