From: John B. on 18 Jun 2010 09:00
On Jun 17, 10:43 pm, "Bobster" <bobs...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
> <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> > On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:37:36 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com>
> > wrote:
> > You don't know what you're talking about Mike.
> > Here is some history, which you probably won't take the time to read,
> > so here's a quote from the Forbes article.
> > "It's been rough few years for BP. Allegations of illegal propane
> > trading. Massive oil spills in Alaska. A deadly explosion at a Texas
> > refinery. All this since 2003. Such catastrophes would cripple or kill
> > most companies".
> > This doesn't even take into consideration the criminal charges in the
> > past.
> >>> That's real BS. If they could've gotten away with paying a few
> >>> thousand bucks, that's what they would do.
> >>>Of course you know this as fact right? No, more BS.
> > No Mike, not BS. Its their history. Take some time with google and
> > you'll see.
> > BK
> So if BP is so evil, why doesn't Obama give back the $1 million in campaign
> contributions he got from BP?
He didn't get anything close to that from BP.
From: John B. on 18 Jun 2010 09:01
On Jun 17, 11:10 pm, Moderate <nos...(a)nomail.comu> wrote:
> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 17, 10:04 pm, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:39:21 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> So, what are some of your examples of Obama hatred? Seems most of
> > > > the
> >>> anti-Obama rhetoric here is laughing at his ineptness. Also well
> > > > deserved
> >>> IMO.
> >> I haven't noticed that. I've seen him accused of being Kenyan.
> > > I've
> >> seen him accused of being socialist. I've seen him accused of being
> >> owned by Big Business. I've seen people angry at him passing bills..
> >> Those seem to be a majority of the anti-Obama rhetoric that I've
> > > seen.
> > I've seen a lot about what he supposedly wants to do -- raise your
> > taxes, take your guns, turn the country into a socialist utopia, that
> > kind of stuff -- but not so much about what he's done.
> What has he done?
> Continue Bush policies in the war against terror.
> Reduce my health care and give insurance companies more profits.
> Spent Billions on the economy.
That's it? That's all you've got? How has he reduced your health care?
From: Alan Illeman on 18 Jun 2010 19:34
Alan Illeman wrote:
> According to Forbes BP shares are already shaky, so
> wouldn't you have thought that Obama would have had
> his meeting with BP CEO Tony Hayward (and reached
> an agreement) prior to the White House speech?
Slippery oil CEO plays dumb? (Tony Hayward)
From: Carbon on 18 Jun 2010 21:17
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:55:28 -0700, John B. wrote:
> On Jun 17, 12:46 pm, Moderate <nos...(a)nomail.comu> wrote:
>> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I agree that the administration's response to the oil leak has been
>>> less than optimal. But if Obama had done everything his critics say
>>> he should have done, the situation in the Gulf would not be
>>> appreciably different from what it is now. Right-wingers have
>>> attacked him every which way from Tuesday, but they haven't said one
>>> harsh word about BP, which is the guilty party.
>> Sort of like blaming Bush for Katrina, but giving mother nature a
>> free pass. I doubt you will understand the comparison.
> Yes, you're right, it went way over my head. I wish I were really
> smart like you.
There are lots of websites out there who will tell you your IQ is
whatever you want, in exchange for a couple of bucks and a valid email
address that they can tell to spammers.
From: Carbon on 18 Jun 2010 21:26
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:48:22 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> On Jun 16, 8:55 pm, "Alan Illeman" <no...(a)nowhere.ca> wrote:
>> bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:33:17 -0400, "Frank Ketchum"
>>> <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote:
>>>> Clearly you are confusing Obama with someone who has executive
>>>> experience. Please try harder next time.
>>> He has enough to wring $20 billion out of them.
>> He didn't wring anything out of them, that's what they offered.
> You really believe that?
> They offered to pay for everything a couple days after it started.
Tell me something: why has Beyond Petroleum been massively
underestimating the size of the leak? Hmmm? Could it be, oh I don't
know, some sort of ploy to reduce any potential legal liability?