From: Howard Brazee on 28 Nov 2006 22:56 On 28 Nov 2006 16:27:03 -0800, "KnighT" <bryanjunk777(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >Remember, there are 3 types of lag. Some people are refering to pivot >> >lag and others are referring to clubhead lag. Both are good, but they >> >are different. The third type is accumulator lag. >> >> Where can I learn more? > >Very funny. I bet you can teach this stuff to us if you choose. It is >all fairly new to me. Nope. I was serious. These 3 types is something new to me.
From: David Laville on 29 Nov 2006 18:49 On 29 Nov 2006 09:08:20 -0800, curtjester1(a)hotmail.com wrote: >We were speaking on this before, and what I was describing was a >pivotal lag. I see it as something geometrical and nothing in the >physics category which I define more or less as resistance which can >have a nice acceleration if one is adept. Lag is associated with force and motion so how can it be in the geometrical and not physics category? >> The problem is not getting rid of it, it's keeping it. I've seen very >> few golfers who sustain the lag. >> >For me the lag is tossed, and the resistance keeps a going. 2 questions; 1) what resistance? 2) doesn't resistance tend to stop something rather than keep it going? David Laville, G.S.E.M. The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor TB-8982
From: curtjester1 on 30 Nov 2006 12:33 David Laville wrote: > On 29 Nov 2006 09:08:20 -0800, curtjester1(a)hotmail.com wrote: > > >We were speaking on this before, and what I was describing was a > >pivotal lag. I see it as something geometrical and nothing in the > >physics category which I define more or less as resistance which can > >have a nice acceleration if one is adept. > > Lag is associated with force and motion so how can it be in the > geometrical and not physics category? > Well the geometry of the lag is gone at the impact area so the club and the clubhead and the hands are pretty much at the same position as at address. If you have the hands going passed that in a cocked postion your in an impossible hitting situation, so if one wants to speak of lag continuing at that point it has to be in a motion sense. like many golf definitions, they are just made up definitions, and it leaves one possibly with a wrong visual. > >> The problem is not getting rid of it, it's keeping it. I've seen very > >> few golfers who sustain the lag. > >> > >For me the lag is tossed, and the resistance keeps a going. > > 2 questions; > > 1) what resistance? > Well, it's usually associated more with the pushing on a drive loaded swing. The club has to change directions which if one likes to control the club would be needed to control the tempo of the swing. Resistance would be less on more free flinging swing, but it's still there as one still has to maintain tempo rather than take the club back and just spin it with a real light grip. > 2) doesn't resistance tend to stop something rather than keep it > going? > Yes, but in golf it's a good thing, it helps keeps the club controlled. It prevents the speed of the club from happening too fast and allows it to be monitored throughout the swing. CJ > > David Laville, G.S.E.M. > The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor > TB-8982
From: KnighT on 30 Nov 2006 14:17 Howard Brazee wrote: > On 28 Nov 2006 16:27:03 -0800, "KnighT" <bryanjunk777(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > > >> >Remember, there are 3 types of lag. Some people are refering to pivot > >> >lag and others are referring to clubhead lag. Both are good, but they > >> >are different. The third type is accumulator lag. > >> > >> Where can I learn more? > > > >Very funny. I bet you can teach this stuff to us if you choose. It is > >all fairly new to me. > > Nope. I was serious. These 3 types is something new to me. Those facts are straight from The Golfing Machine. Either buy the book or go to LynnBlakeGolf.com. Very good information about the golf swing resides in those places.
From: David Laville on 30 Nov 2006 19:32
On 30 Nov 2006 09:33:46 -0800, curtjester1(a)hotmail.com wrote: > >David Laville wrote: >> On 29 Nov 2006 09:08:20 -0800, curtjester1(a)hotmail.com wrote: >> >> >We were speaking on this before, and what I was describing was a >> >pivotal lag. I see it as something geometrical and nothing in the >> >physics category which I define more or less as resistance which can >> >have a nice acceleration if one is adept. >> >> Lag is associated with force and motion so how can it be in the >> geometrical and not physics category? >> >Well the geometry of the lag is gone at the impact area so the club and >the clubhead and the hands are pretty much at the same position as at >address. If you have the hands going passed that in a cocked postion >your in an impossible hitting situation, so if one wants to speak of >lag continuing at that point it has to be in a motion sense. like many >golf definitions, they are just made up definitions, and it leaves one >possibly with a wrong visual. > >> >> The problem is not getting rid of it, it's keeping it. I've seen very >> >> few golfers who sustain the lag. >> >> >> >For me the lag is tossed, and the resistance keeps a going. >> >> 2 questions; >> >> 1) what resistance? >> >Well, it's usually associated more with the pushing on a drive loaded >swing. The club has to change directions which if one likes to control >the club would be needed to control the tempo of the swing. Resistance >would be less on more free flinging swing, but it's still there as one >still has to maintain tempo rather than take the club back and just >spin it with a real light grip. > >> 2) doesn't resistance tend to stop something rather than keep it >> going? >> >Yes, but in golf it's a good thing, it helps keeps the club controlled. > It prevents the speed of the club from happening too fast and allows >it to be monitored throughout the swing. Whew, okay. Good luck and happy golfing. David Laville, G.S.E.M. The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor TB-8982 |