From: BAR on
In article <e986f98d-d79c-446e-b23a-
e4f6f3b52ecc(a)x3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
>
> On Mar 29, 10:48�am, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:4bae74f0$0$5115$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:43:41 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> > >> "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in
> > >> message
> > >>news:clark-BFD3D6.12145423032010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > >>> In article <80s004Fug...(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW"
> > >>> <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > >>>> "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in
> > >>>> message
> > >>>>news:clark-26F0AD.09151323032010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > >>>>> In article
> > >>>>> <451e2116-4df3-4719-b51f-66d4595a0...(a)19g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>,
> > >>>>> kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>>>>> Why are you so quick to believe Lewis and Conyers and so quick to
> > >>>>>> dismiss the story of Kenneth Gladney?
> >
> > >>>>>>http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/10/i-am-kenneth-
> > >>>>>> gladney/
> >
> > >>>>> Because it is in the Moonies' Washington Times?
> >
> > >>>> So because it appears in the Times it can't possibly be true
> > >>>> correct?
> >
> > >>> Well, it will almost certainly carry their strong bias.
> >
> > >> Just like the New York Times.
> >
> > > Please tell me you're joking.
> >
> > The Wash. Times is no more biased than the NYT Times is.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> If not, that says something definitive about newspaper readers. The
> NYT has a circulation of 928,000 and is generally considered the most
> influential newspaper in the world. The Wash. Times has a circulation
> of 102,000 in a metro area of 5 million.

The NYT is a joke. You cannot be the most influential newspaper in the
world and be on a downward revenue spiral.

A circulation of less than 1,000,000 in a metro area of grater than
19,000,000 is pretty sad.
From: Carbon on
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:55:25 -0400, BAR wrote:
> In article <e986f98d-d79c-446e-b23a-
> e4f6f3b52ecc(a)x3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
>> On Mar 29, 10:48 am, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4bae74f0$0$5115$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:43:41 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
>>>>> "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in
>>>>> message
>>>>> news:clark-BFD3D6.12145423032010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>>>>>> In article <80s004Fug...(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW"
>>>>>> <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in
>>>>>>> message news:clark-26F0AD.09151323032010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
>>>>>>> state.edu...
>>>>>>>> In article <451e2116-4df3-4719-
>>>>>>>> b51f-66d4595a0...(a)19g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>, kenpitts
>>>>>>>> <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why are you so quick to believe Lewis and Conyers and so quick
>>>>>>>>> to dismiss the story of Kenneth Gladney?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/10/i-am-kenneth-
>>>>>>>>> gladney/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because it is in the Moonies' Washington Times?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So because it appears in the Times it can't possibly be true
>>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, it will almost certainly carry their strong bias.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just like the New York Times.
>>>>
>>>> Please tell me you're joking.
>>>
>>> The Wash. Times is no more biased than the NYT Times is.
>>
>> If not, that says something definitive about newspaper readers. The
>> NYT has a circulation of 928,000 and is generally considered the most
>> influential newspaper in the world. The Wash. Times has a circulation
>> of 102,000 in a metro area of 5 million.
>
> The NYT is a joke. You cannot be the most influential newspaper in the
> world and be on a downward revenue spiral.

The NYT is on pretty much the same trajectory as every other newspaper
on the planet. Your beloved Washington Times is even on the brink,
despite being funded by a deep-pocketed cult.

Anyway. 1) you true believers know next to nothing about the NY Times,
2) it's telling that you guys are seriously comparing them to a rag like
the Wash Times.
From: John B. on
On Mar 29, 7:55 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <e986f98d-d79c-446e-b23a-
> e4f6f3b52...(a)x3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 29, 10:48 am, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:4bae74f0$0$5115$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
> > > > On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:43:41 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> > > >> "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in
> > > >> message
> > > >>news:clark-BFD3D6.12145423032010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > > >>> In article <80s004Fug...(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW"
> > > >>> <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > >>>> "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in
> > > >>>> message
> > > >>>>news:clark-26F0AD.09151323032010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu....
> > > >>>>> In article
> > > >>>>> <451e2116-4df3-4719-b51f-66d4595a0...(a)19g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>,
> > > >>>>> kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>>>>> Why are you so quick to believe Lewis and Conyers and so quick to
> > > >>>>>> dismiss the story of Kenneth Gladney?
>
> > > >>>>>>http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/10/i-am-kenneth-
> > > >>>>>> gladney/
>
> > > >>>>> Because it is in the Moonies' Washington Times?
>
> > > >>>> So because it appears in the Times it can't possibly be true
> > > >>>> correct?
>
> > > >>> Well, it will almost certainly carry their strong bias.
>
> > > >> Just like the New York Times.
>
> > > > Please tell me you're joking.
>
> > > The Wash. Times is no more biased than the NYT Times is.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > If not, that says something definitive about newspaper readers. The
> > NYT has a circulation of 928,000 and is generally considered the most
> > influential newspaper in the world. The Wash. Times has a circulation
> > of 102,000 in a metro area of 5 million.
>
> The NYT is a joke. You cannot be the most influential newspaper in the
> world and be on a downward revenue spiral.

Why not? All newspapers are on a downward spiral.
From: BAR on
In article <5a2055c7-7dbc-4050-909f-3a218ef0bf30
@z3g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
> >
> > > If not, that says something definitive about newspaper readers. The
> > > NYT has a circulation of 928,000 and is generally considered the most
> > > influential newspaper in the world. The Wash. Times has a circulation
> > > of 102,000 in a metro area of 5 million.
> >
> > The NYT is a joke. You cannot be the most influential newspaper in the
> > world and be on a downward revenue spiral.
>
> Why not? All newspapers are on a downward spiral.
>

I guess it is which ever newspaper is on the slowest downward spiral
gets the most credibility?


From: Dinosaur_Sr on
On Mar 29, 7:06 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:35:57 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> >news:4bb12852$0$4986$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:48:22 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> >>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:4bae74f0$0$5115$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> >>>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:43:41 -0500, MNMikeW wrote:
> >>>>> "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in
> >>>>> message
> >>>>>news:clark-BFD3D6.12145423032010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >>>>>> In article <80s004Fug...(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW"
> >>>>>> <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in
> >>>>>>> message
> >>>>>>>news:clark-26F0AD.09151323032010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> >>>>>>> state.edu...
> >>>>>>>> In article
> >>>>>>>> <451e2116-4df3-4719-
> >>>>>>>> b51f-66d4595a0...(a)19g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>,
> >>>>>>>> kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>> Why are you so quick to believe Lewis and Conyers and so quick
> >>>>>>>>> to dismiss the story of Kenneth Gladney?
>
> >>>>>>>>>http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/10/i-am-kenneth-
> >>>>>>>>> gladney/
>
> >>>>>>>> Because it is in the Moonies' Washington Times?
>
> >>>>>>> So because it appears in the Times it can't possibly be true
> >>>>>>> correct?
>
> >>>>>> Well, it will almost certainly carry their strong bias.
>
> >>>>> Just like the New York Times.
>
> >>>> Please tell me you're joking.
>
> >>> The Wash. Times is no more biased than the NYT Times is.
>
> >> Are you insane?
>
> > Do you actually believe the NYT is not biased?
>
> Your claim was that the NYT was as biased as the Washington Times, a
> cult rag and an embarrassment to journalism.

I would have never thought a person like you would recognize that the
NYT is a cult rag that is an embarassment to journalism.
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