From: MNMikeW on

"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3834503e-1aa9-4d89-979b-cd3c268cc123(a)w42g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 7, 7:52 am, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
state.edu> wrote:
> In article
> <0cce1d38-1a83-4b22-ac7b-e15a120c0...(a)i25g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 6, 3:54 am, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote:
> > > On 5-Apr-2010, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I do not know who or what the SEIU or the UAW are.
>
> > > unions: the former is for <cough, cough> public servants, the latter
> > > for
> > > tradesmen
>
> > > --
> > > bill-o
>
> > The former is not for public servants, it's for hotel and restaurant
> > workers.
>
> There you go - that's the level of informed opinion you are dealing with.

Well, it turns out I was half wrong. It's for both.

=========================
And Clark just everyone know his level of informed opinion.


From: MNMikeW on

"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5c3b5472-73b8-4de6-aa1b-998793d73adf(a)z3g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 7, 4:56 pm, Dinosaur_Sr <frostb...(a)dukesofbiohazard.com> wrote:
> On Apr 7, 4:45 pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 7, 11:08 am, Dinosaur_Sr <frostb...(a)dukesofbiohazard.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 6, 10:46 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:51:39 +0000, assimilate wrote:
> > > > > On 4-Apr-2010, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > >>> Are you trying to claim the NYT isn't biased?
>
> > > > >> Compared to the Washington Times? Get real.
>
> > > > > the only difference is the NYT is biased in the same way that you
> > > > > are
>
> > > > Everybody is biased. It's the degree of bias that matters. You would
> > > > have to be incapable of rational thought to seriously equate a cult
> > > > rag
> > > > like the Wash Times to the NYT.
>
> > > The NYT, like the Wash Times, is deliberately biased. The bias is a
> > > matter of policy, and both are extreme to my minds eye. I don't see a
> > > difference.
>
> > If you don't see a difference, either you've never read either paper
> > or you're intellectually incapable of discerning a difference.
>
> Actually, I'm not so stupid as I can't see what organizations like the
> NYT are doing. While biased conservative media pride themselves in
> being blunt and plain speaking, biased liberal media engage in pseudo-
> intellectual; twitism, and embed a series of standard sorts of
> phrasings and platitudes in a worn out old rhetorical style that they
> think shows them off as being "intellectual"...and this did work in
> the 1930's...obviously the public is wise to it now.
>
> In any event, the regulars on the NYT are in fact no more intellectual
> that the regulars on the WT, they just use different rhetorical
> styles. For example, William Ayers is considered "intellectual" by NYT
> types, when in fact he is a low grade thug, no different that Gordon
> Liddy.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ayers is a professor at the Univ. of Chicago, which generally
qualifies one as an intellectual.

=======================
Ted Kaczynski was an intellectual too. Ted and Ayers have a lot in common.


From: MNMikeW on

"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:92b8e5d7-5d66-4100-9cdb-3e1887d49e55(a)y14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 7, 2:08 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
state.edu> wrote:
> In article
> <576e9a46-6587-4a6a-8e29-d9f5a33f4...(a)r27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> Dinosaur_Sr <frostb...(a)dukesofbiohazard.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 6, 10:46 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:51:39 +0000, assimilate wrote:
> > > > On 4-Apr-2010, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>> Are you trying to claim the NYT isn't biased?
>
> > > >> Compared to the Washington Times? Get real.
>
> > > > the only difference is the NYT is biased in the same way that you
> > > > are
>
> > > Everybody is biased. It's the degree of bias that matters. You would
> > > have to be incapable of rational thought to seriously equate a cult
> > > rag
> > > like the Wash Times to the NYT.
>
> > The NYT, like the Wash Times, is deliberately biased. The bias is a
> > matter of policy, and both are extreme to my minds eye. I don't see a
> > difference.
>
> Where would you say the political bias of David Brooks lies? Thank you.-
> Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Right. You will find liberal and conservative commentary on the op-ed
page of the NYT. You will find only conservative voices on the op-ed
page of the Wash Times.

========================
Only the NYT would consider David Brooks conservative.


From: MNMikeW on

"MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote in message
news:824bnkFssmU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>
> "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3834503e-1aa9-4d89-979b-cd3c268cc123(a)w42g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 7, 7:52 am, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
> state.edu> wrote:
>> In article
>> <0cce1d38-1a83-4b22-ac7b-e15a120c0...(a)i25g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Apr 6, 3:54 am, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote:
>> > > On 5-Apr-2010, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > I do not know who or what the SEIU or the UAW are.
>>
>> > > unions: the former is for <cough, cough> public servants, the latter
>> > > for
>> > > tradesmen
>>
>> > > --
>> > > bill-o
>>
>> > The former is not for public servants, it's for hotel and restaurant
>> > workers.
>>
>> There you go - that's the level of informed opinion you are dealing with.
>
> Well, it turns out I was half wrong. It's for both.
>
> =========================
> And Clark just everyone know his level of informed opinion.
>
And Clark just let everyone know his level of informed opinion.


From: BAR on
In article <5c3b5472-73b8-4de6-aa1b-
998793d73adf(a)z3g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
>
> On Apr 7, 4:56�pm, Dinosaur_Sr <frostb...(a)dukesofbiohazard.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 7, 4:45�pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 7, 11:08�am, Dinosaur_Sr <frostb...(a)dukesofbiohazard.com>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > On Apr 6, 10:46�pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:51:39 +0000, assimilate wrote:
> > > > > > On �4-Apr-2010, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > >>> Are you trying to claim the NYT isn't biased?
> >
> > > > > >> Compared to the Washington Times? Get real.
> >
> > > > > > the only difference is the NYT is biased in the same way that you are
> >
> > > > > Everybody is biased. It's the degree of bias that matters. You would
> > > > > have to be incapable of rational thought to seriously equate a cult rag
> > > > > like the Wash Times to the NYT.
> >
> > > > The NYT, like the Wash Times, is deliberately biased. The bias is a
> > > > matter of policy, and both are extreme to my minds eye. I don't see a
> > > > difference.
> >
> > > If you don't see a difference, either you've never read either paper
> > > or you're intellectually incapable of discerning a difference.
> >
> > Actually, I'm not so stupid as I can't see what organizations like the
> > NYT are doing. While biased conservative media pride themselves in
> > being blunt and plain speaking, biased liberal media engage in pseudo-
> > intellectual; twitism, and embed a series of standard sorts of
> > phrasings and platitudes in a worn out old rhetorical style that they
> > think shows them off as being "intellectual"...and this did work in
> > the 1930's...obviously the public is wise to it now.
> >
> > In any event, the regulars on the NYT are in fact no more intellectual
> > that the regulars on the WT, they just use different rhetorical
> > styles. For example, William Ayers is considered "intellectual" by NYT
> > types, when in fact he is a low grade thug, no different that Gordon
> > Liddy.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Ayers is a professor at the Univ. of Chicago, which generally

Ayes is an admitted felon who should have been in jail for the rest of
his life.

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