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From: Don Kirkman on 15 Mar 2010 16:03
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:40:54 -0500, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:

>On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:54:55 -0700 (PDT), kenpitts
><ken.ptts(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>>On Mar 14, 7:29 pm, Lloyd Parsons <lloydpars...(a)mac.com> wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <036afeee-57f4-438e-801e-786ec250a...(a)u9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,

>>>  kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > I don't see how. I worked in Sacramento for months. The Sacramento
>>> > River is wide and deep all the time.

But not equally throughout the year, and the flow is managed in large
part by projects like Shasta Dam, dating from the Roosevelt years.

>>> > Seems like the snow in the Sierras gets replenished in a big way every
>>> > winter.

No way is it replenished "in a big way every winter." This year seems
to be the first in several that looks like the snowpack will even
reach normal levels, and the season is winding down.

>>> > FIshing today. Golf courses tomorrow. Then any sport that requires
>>> > green grass or hard wood to play. We'll be reduced to hackey-sack -
>>> > maybe in my life time.

The fishing issue is more about preservation of species and habitat
than about water rights. West of the Mississippi water rights have
historically been a fighting issue.

>>> > Oh wait, Obama is a golfer. Maybe golf will be spared.

>>> I'm thinking a bit further south, the Fresno/Bakersfield areas

The San Joaquin Valley, much more than the Sacramento Valley, has been
developed by irrigation. The settlers in a strip some thirty to fifty
miles from the foot of the Sierra depended on stream water; everything
west of there was basically desert until *deep* well pumps were
developed. The giant agribusiness development of the last half
century depends almost totally on water brought south and west by the
major canal systems. I grew up in that area, and much of it has
become a crowded rural slum since I lived there.

>>Mammoth Mountain is not very far a away.

Los Angeles brought water from the Owens Valley (including the Mammoth
area) starting in 1913. It's only now making nice about relinquishing
some of that water back to where it comes from--to alleviate dust
storms in the dry Owens Lake bed.

>About 100 miles.

Over the highest part of the Sierras from Fresno and Bakersfield, with
almost no through roads. ;-)
--
Don Kirkman
donsno2(a)charter.net
From: R&B on 15 Mar 2010 16:20
On 2010-03-15 13:58:18 -0400, dene said:

> "R&B" <none_of_your_business(a)all.com> wrote in message
> news:2010031412185316807-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom...
>> On 2010-03-13 14:41:59 -0500, Fred K. Gringioni said:
>>
>>> "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7vv15uFj1pU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> It most certainly is a sport for idiots. What sort of brainpower does
> a
>>>>>>> fish have?
>>>>
>>>> More than you.
>>>>>
>>>>> People that go fishing set out to match wits with one of the stupidest
>>>>>>> branches in the evolutionary tree.
>>>>
>>>> I think you mean debating a liberal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not liberal.
>>>
>>> Even if I was, it doesn't change the fact that fishermen are stupid.
>>> Matching wits with fish. What a dumb way to spend your time.
>>
>>
>> "Matching wits with fish."
>>
>> How else was Dene ever going to gain his sense of superiority?
>>
>> Randy
>
> As in the bait you just tossed, Cow Brown?
>
> -Greg


Just like fish, you're pretty predictable when the bait is cast, Denie-weenie.

Randy

From: BAR on 15 Mar 2010 19:43
In article <8076ddF3k3U1(a)mid.individual.net>, MNMiikkew(a)aol.com says...
>
> "Fred K. Gringioni" <kgringioni(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hnljis$3hn$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> >
> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:806v04FkbeU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> >>
> >> "Fred K. Gringioni" <kgringioni(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:hnj03g$g2a$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> >>>
> >>> "BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:MPG.2605f3956efd50fc989cdd(a)news.giganews.com...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Even if I was, it doesn't change the fact that fishermen are stupid.
> >>>>> Matching wits with fish. What a dumb way to spend your time.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hitting a little ball with a stick and then chasing it and then doing
> >>>> it
> >>>> again is matching wits with inanimate objects. At least the fish has a
> >>>> couple of brain cells.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Golfers play against other golfers. Or against themselves.
> >>>
> >>> Fishermen go against the fish.
> >> Ever hear of B.A.S.S?
> >
> >
> >
> > 99.9% of fishermen go against the fish.
> All fisherman ALWAYS try to outfish their buddies. Man law.

First fish.

Biggest fish.

Most fish.
From: assimilate on 29 Mar 2010 23:04

On 13-Mar-2010, "Fred K. Gringioni" <kgringioni(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> >> People that go fishing set out to match wits with one of the stupidest
> >> branches in the evolutionary tree.
> >
> > I think you mean debating a liberal.
>
>
>
> I'm not liberal.
>
> Even if I was, it doesn't change the fact that fishermen are stupid.
> Matching wits with fish. What a dumb way to spend your time.

You have a lot of gall calling anyone an idiot

--
bill-o
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