From: John B. on
On Aug 3, 10:28 pm, George Orwell <nob...(a)mixmaster.it> wrote:
> Innocent people will die.
>
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You first, I hope.
From: dsc-ky on
On Aug 4, 2:03 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> In article
> <3f2ee47f-66dd-48ed-9a37-93fc4ce35...(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
>
>  dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote:
> > On Aug 4, 1:22 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <960e79b4-7fa7-4b54-8bd5-b9b34c01b...(a)14g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > >  dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote:
> > > > On Aug 3, 10:28 pm, George Orwell <nob...(a)mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > > > > Innocent people will die.
>
> > > > Innocent people die every day... that's just part of life...
>
> > > Yes, but most of us think it is something worth fighting...
>
> > Up to a point... then the costs become too high.
>
> I agree. But to casually dismiss something this important like that
> seems incredibly callous to me.
>
> --
> Alan Baker
> Vancouver, British Columbia
> <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>

I've had quite a while to think about Bummer Care. Callous or not,
that's my opinion.
Probably the majority of people in the US agree that the Bummer Care
is a bad plan and not worth what it will cost in $. There's not even
any conclusive proof that it will be better at saving any of those
innocent lives you are worried about. It doesn't even kick in for 10
years. Wanna bet that the government finds a way to raid that fund too
(like others)... and it never actually kicks in at all?
From: Alan Baker on
In article
<a78ef6da-c403-4b76-8952-6a6acd49561b(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
dsc-ky <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote:

> On Aug 4, 2:03�pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <3f2ee47f-66dd-48ed-9a37-93fc4ce35...(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > �dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote:
> > > On Aug 4, 1:22�pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <960e79b4-7fa7-4b54-8bd5-b9b34c01b...(a)14g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > �dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote:
> > > > > On Aug 3, 10:28�pm, George Orwell <nob...(a)mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > > > > > Innocent people will die.
> >
> > > > > Innocent people die every day... that's just part of life...
> >
> > > > Yes, but most of us think it is something worth fighting...
> >
> > > Up to a point... then the costs become too high.
> >
> > I agree. But to casually dismiss something this important like that
> > seems incredibly callous to me.
> >
> > --
> > Alan Baker
> > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
>
> I've had quite a while to think about Bummer Care. Callous or not,
> that's my opinion.
> Probably the majority of people in the US agree that the Bummer Care
> is a bad plan and not worth what it will cost in $. There's not even
> any conclusive proof that it will be better at saving any of those
> innocent lives you are worried about. It doesn't even kick in for 10
> years. Wanna bet that the government finds a way to raid that fund too
> (like others)... and it never actually kicks in at all?

Nope.

That's not my point.

Someone says: "This will cost lives", and your reply is: "Meh.".

Justify it to yourself any way you like.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Moderate on

"Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-CD69E0.11575304082010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> In article
> <a78ef6da-c403-4b76-8952-6a6acd49561b(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> dsc-ky <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote:
>>
>> I've had quite a while to think about Bummer Care. Callous or not,
>> that's my opinion.
>> Probably the majority of people in the US agree that the Bummer Care
>> is a bad plan and not worth what it will cost in $. There's not even
>> any conclusive proof that it will be better at saving any of those
>> innocent lives you are worried about. It doesn't even kick in for 10
>> years. Wanna bet that the government finds a way to raid that fund too
>> (like others)... and it never actually kicks in at all?
>
> Nope.
>
> That's not my point.
>
> Someone says: "This will cost lives", and your reply is: "Meh.".
>
> Justify it to yourself any way you like.

The majority of Americans didn't want Obama care. A majority of Americans
have opposed all of Obama's major policies. The polls aren't secret. It
isn't a surprise that Obama is polling at 41% approval if all of his major
policies were against the wishes of the majority of Americans.

It will be refreshing to have a government of the people by the people for
the people instead of a government of the government by the government for
the government.

The saving lives line is a canard. We all die.


From: dsc-ky on
On Aug 4, 2:57 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> In article
> <a78ef6da-c403-4b76-8952-6a6acd495...(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
>  dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote:
> > On Aug 4, 2:03 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <3f2ee47f-66dd-48ed-9a37-93fc4ce35...(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > >  dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote:
> > > > On Aug 4, 1:22 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > > > > In article
> > > > > <960e79b4-7fa7-4b54-8bd5-b9b34c01b...(a)14g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > > >  dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote:
> > > > > > On Aug 3, 10:28 pm, George Orwell <nob...(a)mixmaster.it> wrote:
> > > > > > > Innocent people will die.
>
> > > > > > Innocent people die every day... that's just part of life...
>
> > > > > Yes, but most of us think it is something worth fighting...
>
> > > > Up to a point... then the costs become too high.
>
> > > I agree. But to casually dismiss something this important like that
> > > seems incredibly callous to me.
>
> > > --
> > > Alan Baker
> > > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
>
> > I've had quite a while to think about Bummer Care. Callous or not,
> > that's my opinion.
> > Probably the majority of people in the US agree that the Bummer Care
> > is a bad plan and not worth what it will cost in $. There's not even
> > any conclusive proof that it will be better at saving any of those
> > innocent lives you are worried about. It doesn't even kick in for 10
> > years. Wanna bet that the government finds a way to raid that fund too
> > (like others)... and it never actually kicks in at all?
>
> Nope.
>
> That's not my point.
>
> Someone says: "This will cost lives", and your reply is: "Meh.".
>

Correct... that isn't necessarily a good enough reason... depending on
what it costs.