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From: Alan Baker on 4 Aug 2010 15:57 In article <i3cgdc$5vo$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:alangbaker-CD69E0.11575304082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > In article > > <a78ef6da-c403-4b76-8952-6a6acd49561b(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, > > dsc-ky <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote: > >> > >> I've had quite a while to think about Bummer Care. Callous or not, > >> that's my opinion. > >> Probably the majority of people in the US agree that the Bummer Care > >> is a bad plan and not worth what it will cost in $. There's not even > >> any conclusive proof that it will be better at saving any of those > >> innocent lives you are worried about. It doesn't even kick in for 10 > >> years. Wanna bet that the government finds a way to raid that fund too > >> (like others)... and it never actually kicks in at all? > > > > Nope. > > > > That's not my point. > > > > Someone says: "This will cost lives", and your reply is: "Meh.". > > > > Justify it to yourself any way you like. > > The majority of Americans didn't want Obama care. A majority of Americans > have opposed all of Obama's major policies. The polls aren't secret. It > isn't a surprise that Obama is polling at 41% approval if all of his major > policies were against the wishes of the majority of Americans. > > It will be refreshing to have a government of the people by the people for > the people instead of a government of the government by the government for > the government. > > The saving lives line is a canard. We all die. Really? What a revelation! In that case, let's do away with the entire medical profession, right? -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Alan Baker on 4 Aug 2010 16:21 In article <8e636408-d9f3-4cbf-98ad-673eec4145cd(a)l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, dsc-ky <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote: > On Aug 4, 2:57�pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > In article > > <a78ef6da-c403-4b76-8952-6a6acd495...(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > > > > > �dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote: > > > On Aug 4, 2:03�pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > In article > > > > <3f2ee47f-66dd-48ed-9a37-93fc4ce35...(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > �dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 4, 1:22�pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > > > In article > > > > > > <960e79b4-7fa7-4b54-8bd5-b9b34c01b...(a)14g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > �dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 10:28�pm, George Orwell <nob...(a)mixmaster.it> wrote: > > > > > > > > Innocent people will die. > > > > > > > > > Innocent people die every day... that's just part of life... > > > > > > > > Yes, but most of us think it is something worth fighting... > > > > > > > Up to a point... then the costs become too high. > > > > > > I agree. But to casually dismiss something this important like that > > > > seems incredibly callous to me. > > > > > > -- > > > > Alan Baker > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia > > > > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> > > > > > I've had quite a while to think about Bummer Care. Callous or not, > > > that's my opinion. > > > Probably the majority of people in the US agree that the Bummer Care > > > is a bad plan and not worth what it will cost in $. There's not even > > > any conclusive proof that it will be better at saving any of those > > > innocent lives you are worried about. It doesn't even kick in for 10 > > > years. Wanna bet that the government finds a way to raid that fund too > > > (like others)... and it never actually kicks in at all? > > > > Nope. > > > > That's not my point. > > > > Someone says: "This will cost lives", and your reply is: "Meh.". > > > > Correct... that isn't necessarily a good enough reason... depending on > what it costs. This latest answer is at odds with your earlier "who cares" attitude. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Moderate on 4 Aug 2010 16:58 "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:alangbaker-B8B624.12574204082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > In article <i3cgdc$5vo$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message >> news:alangbaker-CD69E0.11575304082010(a)news.shawcable.com... >> > In article >> > <a78ef6da-c403-4b76-8952-6a6acd49561b(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, >> > dsc-ky <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote: >> >> >> >> I've had quite a while to think about Bummer Care. Callous or not, >> >> that's my opinion. >> >> Probably the majority of people in the US agree that the Bummer Care >> >> is a bad plan and not worth what it will cost in $. There's not even >> >> any conclusive proof that it will be better at saving any of those >> >> innocent lives you are worried about. It doesn't even kick in for 10 >> >> years. Wanna bet that the government finds a way to raid that fund too >> >> (like others)... and it never actually kicks in at all? >> > >> > Nope. >> > >> > That's not my point. >> > >> > Someone says: "This will cost lives", and your reply is: "Meh.". >> > >> > Justify it to yourself any way you like. >> >> The majority of Americans didn't want Obama care. A majority of >> Americans >> have opposed all of Obama's major policies. The polls aren't secret. It >> isn't a surprise that Obama is polling at 41% approval if all of his >> major >> policies were against the wishes of the majority of Americans. >> >> It will be refreshing to have a government of the people by the people >> for >> the people instead of a government of the government by the government >> for >> the government. >> >> The saving lives line is a canard. We all die. > > Really? What a revelation! > > In that case, let's do away with the entire medical profession, right? Or go to the other extreme and outlaw tobacco, alcohol, transfats, enforce mandatory exercise programs, crash helmets, five point restraint systems, ..... Football starts this weekend I am feeling a little giddy.
From: John B. on 4 Aug 2010 17:08 On Aug 4, 3:52 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > news:alangbaker-CD69E0.11575304082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > > In article > > <a78ef6da-c403-4b76-8952-6a6acd495...(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, > > dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote: > > >> I've had quite a while to think about Bummer Care. Callous or not, > >> that's my opinion. > >> Probably the majority of people in the US agree that the Bummer Care > >> is a bad plan and not worth what it will cost in $. There's not even > >> any conclusive proof that it will be better at saving any of those > >> innocent lives you are worried about. It doesn't even kick in for 10 > >> years. Wanna bet that the government finds a way to raid that fund too > >> (like others)... and it never actually kicks in at all? > > > Nope. > > > That's not my point. > > > Someone says: "This will cost lives", and your reply is: "Meh.". > > > Justify it to yourself any way you like. > > The majority of Americans didn't want Obama care. A majority of Americans > have opposed all of Obama's major policies. The polls aren't secret. It > isn't a surprise that Obama is polling at 41% approval if all of his major > policies were against the wishes of the majority of Americans. > > It will be refreshing to have a government of the people by the people for > the people instead of a government of the government by the government for > the government. > > The saving lives line is a canard. We all die. If a majority of Americans have opposed all of Obama's major policies, then why did a majority of Americans elect him to be president? He said during the campaign that he wanted to do health care, he wanted to do a stimulus package, he wanted to do financial services reform. So what happened? Did people change their minds about what they wanted?
From: Frank Ketchum on 4 Aug 2010 17:47
"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:0bfb8dd8-47d3-4bbb-9047-ed16d676c930(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... On Aug 4, 3:52 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > news:alangbaker-CD69E0.11575304082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > > In article > > <a78ef6da-c403-4b76-8952-6a6acd495...(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, > > dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote: > > >> I've had quite a while to think about Bummer Care. Callous or not, > >> that's my opinion. > >> Probably the majority of people in the US agree that the Bummer Care > >> is a bad plan and not worth what it will cost in $. There's not even > >> any conclusive proof that it will be better at saving any of those > >> innocent lives you are worried about. It doesn't even kick in for 10 > >> years. Wanna bet that the government finds a way to raid that fund too > >> (like others)... and it never actually kicks in at all? > > > Nope. > > > That's not my point. > > > Someone says: "This will cost lives", and your reply is: "Meh.". > > > Justify it to yourself any way you like. > > The majority of Americans didn't want Obama care. A majority of Americans > have opposed all of Obama's major policies. The polls aren't secret. It > isn't a surprise that Obama is polling at 41% approval if all of his major > policies were against the wishes of the majority of Americans. > > It will be refreshing to have a government of the people by the people for > the people instead of a government of the government by the government for > the government. > > The saving lives line is a canard. We all die. If a majority of Americans have opposed all of Obama's major policies, then why did a majority of Americans elect him to be president? He said during the campaign that he wanted to do health care, he wanted to do a stimulus package, he wanted to do financial services reform. So what happened? Did people change their minds about what they wanted? - - - Really? A majority? Try looking up the current population of the country. Then try looking up the number of votes for Obama. Now explain how that is a majority. I would do it for you, but you would accuse me of lying somehow. |