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From: Moderate on 4 Aug 2010 17:46 "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:0bfb8dd8-47d3-4bbb-9047-ed16d676c930(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... On Aug 4, 3:52 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > news:alangbaker-CD69E0.11575304082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > > > In article > > <a78ef6da-c403-4b76-8952-6a6acd495...(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, > > dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote: > > >> I've had quite a while to think about Bummer Care. Callous or not, > >> that's my opinion. > >> Probably the majority of people in the US agree that the Bummer Care > >> is a bad plan and not worth what it will cost in $. There's not even > >> any conclusive proof that it will be better at saving any of those > >> innocent lives you are worried about. It doesn't even kick in for 10 > >> years. Wanna bet that the government finds a way to raid that fund too > >> (like others)... and it never actually kicks in at all? > > > Nope. > > > That's not my point. > > > Someone says: "This will cost lives", and your reply is: "Meh.". > > > Justify it to yourself any way you like. > > The majority of Americans didn't want Obama care. A majority of Americans > have opposed all of Obama's major policies. The polls aren't secret. It > isn't a surprise that Obama is polling at 41% approval if all of his major > policies were against the wishes of the majority of Americans. > > It will be refreshing to have a government of the people by the people for > the people instead of a government of the government by the government for > the government. > > The saving lives line is a canard. We all die. If a majority of Americans have opposed all of Obama's major policies, then why did a majority of Americans elect him to be president? He said during the campaign that he wanted to do health care, he wanted to do a stimulus package, he wanted to do financial services reform. So what happened? Did people change their minds about what they wanted? *********************************************************** I don't know why anybody voted for Obama. I am certainly not a mind reader. I can read the polls and so can you.
From: John B. on 4 Aug 2010 18:13 On Aug 4, 5:47 pm, "Frank Ketchum" <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:0bfb8dd8-47d3-4bbb-9047-ed16d676c930(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 4, 3:52 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > >news:alangbaker-CD69E0.11575304082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > In article > > > <a78ef6da-c403-4b76-8952-6a6acd495...(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, > > > dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote: > > > >> I've had quite a while to think about Bummer Care. Callous or not, > > >> that's my opinion. > > >> Probably the majority of people in the US agree that the Bummer Care > > >> is a bad plan and not worth what it will cost in $. There's not even > > >> any conclusive proof that it will be better at saving any of those > > >> innocent lives you are worried about. It doesn't even kick in for 10 > > >> years. Wanna bet that the government finds a way to raid that fund too > > >> (like others)... and it never actually kicks in at all? > > > > Nope. > > > > That's not my point. > > > > Someone says: "This will cost lives", and your reply is: "Meh.". > > > > Justify it to yourself any way you like. > > > The majority of Americans didn't want Obama care. A majority of Americans > > have opposed all of Obama's major policies. The polls aren't secret. It > > isn't a surprise that Obama is polling at 41% approval if all of his major > > policies were against the wishes of the majority of Americans. > > > It will be refreshing to have a government of the people by the people for > > the people instead of a government of the government by the government for > > the government. > > > The saving lives line is a canard. We all die. > > If a majority of Americans have opposed all of Obama's major policies, > then why did a majority of Americans elect him to be president? He > said during the campaign that he wanted to do health care, he wanted > to do a stimulus package, he wanted to do financial services reform. > So what happened? Did people change their minds about what they wanted? > > - - - > > Really? A majority? > Try looking up the current population of the country. > Then try looking up the number of votes for Obama. > Now explain how that is a majority. > > I would do it for you, but you would accuse me of lying somehow. Well, gee, you got me there, Frank. You must be feeling very good about yourself. A majority of American VOTERS elected him. Is that acceptable to you?
From: BAR on 4 Aug 2010 18:13 In article <8e636408-d9f3-4cbf-98ad- 673eec4145cd(a)l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu says... > > > I've had quite a while to think about Bummer Care. Callous or not, > > > that's my opinion. > > > Probably the majority of people in the US agree that the Bummer Care > > > is a bad plan and not worth what it will cost in $. There's not even > > > any conclusive proof that it will be better at saving any of those > > > innocent lives you are worried about. It doesn't even kick in for 10 > > > years. Wanna bet that the government finds a way to raid that fund too > > > (like others)... and it never actually kicks in at all? > > > > Nope. > > > > That's not my point. > > > > Someone says: "This will cost lives", and your reply is: "Meh.". > > > > Correct... that isn't necessarily a good enough reason... depending on > what it costs. > > People will continue to die whether Obama Care is funded or not. The question how many of the 45 million people without health care before Obama Care passed are still without health care after Obama Care was passed. The numbers I have seen in the MSM are 26 to 30 million. Is the cost worth the effort?
From: John B. on 4 Aug 2010 18:17 On Aug 4, 5:46 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:0bfb8dd8-47d3-4bbb-9047-ed16d676c930(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 4, 3:52 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > >news:alangbaker-CD69E0.11575304082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > In article > > > <a78ef6da-c403-4b76-8952-6a6acd495...(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, > > > dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote: > > > >> I've had quite a while to think about Bummer Care. Callous or not, > > >> that's my opinion. > > >> Probably the majority of people in the US agree that the Bummer Care > > >> is a bad plan and not worth what it will cost in $. There's not even > > >> any conclusive proof that it will be better at saving any of those > > >> innocent lives you are worried about. It doesn't even kick in for 10 > > >> years. Wanna bet that the government finds a way to raid that fund too > > >> (like others)... and it never actually kicks in at all? > > > > Nope. > > > > That's not my point. > > > > Someone says: "This will cost lives", and your reply is: "Meh.". > > > > Justify it to yourself any way you like. > > > The majority of Americans didn't want Obama care. A majority of Americans > > have opposed all of Obama's major policies. The polls aren't secret. It > > isn't a surprise that Obama is polling at 41% approval if all of his major > > policies were against the wishes of the majority of Americans. > > > It will be refreshing to have a government of the people by the people for > > the people instead of a government of the government by the government for > > the government. > > > The saving lives line is a canard. We all die. > > If a majority of Americans have opposed all of Obama's major policies, > then why did a majority of Americans elect him to be president? He > said during the campaign that he wanted to do health care, he wanted > to do a stimulus package, he wanted to do financial services reform. > So what happened? Did people change their minds about what they wanted? > *********************************************************** > > I don't know why anybody voted for Obama. I am certainly not a mind reader. > I can read the polls and so can you. I know why people voted for him. What I don't understand is why he's being beaten up for doing exactly what he said he would do. You got any insight into that?
From: Frank Ketchum on 4 Aug 2010 18:37
"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:3bf08710-4661-4736-a30e-72be86c76f73(a)i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... On Aug 4, 5:47 pm, "Frank Ketchum" <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:0bfb8dd8-47d3-4bbb-9047-ed16d676c930(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 4, 3:52 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > >news:alangbaker-CD69E0.11575304082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > In article > > > <a78ef6da-c403-4b76-8952-6a6acd495...(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, > > > dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote: > > > >> I've had quite a while to think about Bummer Care. Callous or not, > > >> that's my opinion. > > >> Probably the majority of people in the US agree that the Bummer Care > > >> is a bad plan and not worth what it will cost in $. There's not even > > >> any conclusive proof that it will be better at saving any of those > > >> innocent lives you are worried about. It doesn't even kick in for 10 > > >> years. Wanna bet that the government finds a way to raid that fund > > >> too > > >> (like others)... and it never actually kicks in at all? > > > > Nope. > > > > That's not my point. > > > > Someone says: "This will cost lives", and your reply is: "Meh.". > > > > Justify it to yourself any way you like. > > > The majority of Americans didn't want Obama care. A majority of > > Americans > > have opposed all of Obama's major policies. The polls aren't secret. It > > isn't a surprise that Obama is polling at 41% approval if all of his > > major > > policies were against the wishes of the majority of Americans. > > > It will be refreshing to have a government of the people by the people > > for > > the people instead of a government of the government by the government > > for > > the government. > > > The saving lives line is a canard. We all die. > > If a majority of Americans have opposed all of Obama's major policies, > then why did a majority of Americans elect him to be president? He > said during the campaign that he wanted to do health care, he wanted > to do a stimulus package, he wanted to do financial services reform. > So what happened? Did people change their minds about what they wanted? > > - - - > > Really? A majority? > Try looking up the current population of the country. > Then try looking up the number of votes for Obama. > Now explain how that is a majority. > > I would do it for you, but you would accuse me of lying somehow. Well, gee, you got me there, Frank. You must be feeling very good about yourself. A majority of American VOTERS elected him. Is that acceptable to you? - - - You miss the point completely. How can a majority of Americans disagree with his policies when he was elected president? A majority of Americans don't vote. Get it? |