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From: Moderate on 5 Aug 2010 09:24 "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:52959449-caff-4a47-8bde-3619e3e5bd71(a)m1g2000yqo.googlegroups.com... On Aug 4, 5:46 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:0bfb8dd8-47d3-4bbb-9047-ed16d676c930(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 4, 3:52 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > >news:alangbaker-CD69E0.11575304082010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > In article > > > <a78ef6da-c403-4b76-8952-6a6acd495...(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, > > > dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote: > > > >> I've had quite a while to think about Bummer Care. Callous or not, > > >> that's my opinion. > > >> Probably the majority of people in the US agree that the Bummer Care > > >> is a bad plan and not worth what it will cost in $. There's not even > > >> any conclusive proof that it will be better at saving any of those > > >> innocent lives you are worried about. It doesn't even kick in for 10 > > >> years. Wanna bet that the government finds a way to raid that fund > > >> too > > >> (like others)... and it never actually kicks in at all? > > > > Nope. > > > > That's not my point. > > > > Someone says: "This will cost lives", and your reply is: "Meh.". > > > > Justify it to yourself any way you like. > > > The majority of Americans didn't want Obama care. A majority of > > Americans > > have opposed all of Obama's major policies. The polls aren't secret. It > > isn't a surprise that Obama is polling at 41% approval if all of his > > major > > policies were against the wishes of the majority of Americans. > > > It will be refreshing to have a government of the people by the people > > for > > the people instead of a government of the government by the government > > for > > the government. > > > The saving lives line is a canard. We all die. > > If a majority of Americans have opposed all of Obama's major policies, > then why did a majority of Americans elect him to be president? He > said during the campaign that he wanted to do health care, he wanted > to do a stimulus package, he wanted to do financial services reform. > So what happened? Did people change their minds about what they wanted? > *********************************************************** > > I don't know why anybody voted for Obama. I am certainly not a mind > reader. > I can read the polls and so can you. I know why people voted for him. What I don't understand is why he's being beaten up for doing exactly what he said he would do. You got any insight into that? ******************************************************* Really? If you know why people voted for him then you have a leg up on me. He didn't do exactly what he said. His health care bill didn't make health care more affordable. He money give away hasn't helped the economy. He didn't fix immigration. He hasn't reduced corruption. He hasn't reduced spending.
From: bknight on 5 Aug 2010 09:38 On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 08:24:34 -0500, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > >"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >I know why people voted for him. What I don't understand is why he's >being beaten up for doing exactly what he said he would do. You got >any insight into that? >******************************************************* > >Really? If you know why people voted for him then you have a leg up on me. > >He didn't do exactly what he said. His health care bill didn't make health >care more affordable. We don't know that yet, but after years of talk about it we have made a change in health care that looks promising. > He money give away hasn't helped the economy. We made a profit on the loans to GM. > He didn't fix immigration. Damn, and he's had two years to do something that hasn't been fixed in the last thirty. > He hasn't reduced corruption. Just how was that to be done? He also hasn't reduced home invasions, and done away with the criminal mind. > He hasn't reduced spending. That is true, and I'm hoping that will come to fruition. I just know that he was the best of the candidates in the last election, and that he will be able to do some of the things that reverse the country's downward spiral. Maybe there is another person out there that can, and I'll vote for him is so. But right now there is a dearth of leadership on the GOP side. BK
From: MNMikeW on 5 Aug 2010 10:42 "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote in message news:i3ck9k$c0t$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:alangbaker-B8B624.12574204082010(a)news.shawcable.com... >> In article <i3cgdc$5vo$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, >> "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: >> >>> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message >>> news:alangbaker-CD69E0.11575304082010(a)news.shawcable.com... >>> > In article >>> > <a78ef6da-c403-4b76-8952-6a6acd49561b(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, >>> > dsc-ky <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> I've had quite a while to think about Bummer Care. Callous or not, >>> >> that's my opinion. >>> >> Probably the majority of people in the US agree that the Bummer Care >>> >> is a bad plan and not worth what it will cost in $. There's not even >>> >> any conclusive proof that it will be better at saving any of those >>> >> innocent lives you are worried about. It doesn't even kick in for 10 >>> >> years. Wanna bet that the government finds a way to raid that fund >>> >> too >>> >> (like others)... and it never actually kicks in at all? >>> > >>> > Nope. >>> > >>> > That's not my point. >>> > >>> > Someone says: "This will cost lives", and your reply is: "Meh.". >>> > >>> > Justify it to yourself any way you like. >>> >>> The majority of Americans didn't want Obama care. A majority of >>> Americans >>> have opposed all of Obama's major policies. The polls aren't secret. >>> It >>> isn't a surprise that Obama is polling at 41% approval if all of his >>> major >>> policies were against the wishes of the majority of Americans. >>> >>> It will be refreshing to have a government of the people by the people >>> for >>> the people instead of a government of the government by the government >>> for >>> the government. >>> >>> The saving lives line is a canard. We all die. >> >> Really? What a revelation! >> >> In that case, let's do away with the entire medical profession, right? > > Or go to the other extreme and outlaw tobacco, alcohol, transfats, enforce > mandatory exercise programs, crash helmets, five point restraint systems, > .... > > Football starts this weekend I am feeling a little giddy. Hell yeah!
From: MNMikeW on 5 Aug 2010 10:48 "Frank Ketchum" <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote in message news:Lsn6o.1$rP6.0(a)newsfe08.iad... > > "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:3920df21-4cae-4949-8831-cd5a09dfdaf0(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 4, 6:37 pm, "Frank Ketchum" <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: >> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:3bf08710-4661-4736-a30e-72be86c76f73(a)i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... >> On Aug 4, 5:47 pm, "Frank Ketchum" <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >news:0bfb8dd8-47d3-4bbb-9047-ed16d676c930(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... >> > On Aug 4, 3:52 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: >> >> > > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message >> >> > >news:alangbaker-CD69E0.11575304082010(a)news.shawcable.com... >> >> > > > In article >> > > > <a78ef6da-c403-4b76-8952-6a6acd495...(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, >> > > > dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote: >> >> > > >> I've had quite a while to think about Bummer Care. Callous or not, >> > > >> that's my opinion. >> > > >> Probably the majority of people in the US agree that the Bummer >> > > >> Care >> > > >> is a bad plan and not worth what it will cost in $. There's not >> > > >> even >> > > >> any conclusive proof that it will be better at saving any of those >> > > >> innocent lives you are worried about. It doesn't even kick in for >> > > >> 10 >> > > >> years. Wanna bet that the government finds a way to raid that fund >> > > >> too >> > > >> (like others)... and it never actually kicks in at all? >> >> > > > Nope. >> >> > > > That's not my point. >> >> > > > Someone says: "This will cost lives", and your reply is: "Meh.". >> >> > > > Justify it to yourself any way you like. >> >> > > The majority of Americans didn't want Obama care. A majority of >> > > Americans >> > > have opposed all of Obama's major policies. The polls aren't secret. >> > > It >> > > isn't a surprise that Obama is polling at 41% approval if all of his >> > > major >> > > policies were against the wishes of the majority of Americans. >> >> > > It will be refreshing to have a government of the people by the >> > > people >> > > for >> > > the people instead of a government of the government by the >> > > government >> > > for >> > > the government. >> >> > > The saving lives line is a canard. We all die. >> >> > If a majority of Americans have opposed all of Obama's major policies, >> > then why did a majority of Americans elect him to be president? He >> > said during the campaign that he wanted to do health care, he wanted >> > to do a stimulus package, he wanted to do financial services reform. >> > So what happened? Did people change their minds about what they wanted? >> >> > - - - >> >> > Really? A majority? >> > Try looking up the current population of the country. >> > Then try looking up the number of votes for Obama. >> > Now explain how that is a majority. >> >> > I would do it for you, but you would accuse me of lying somehow. >> >> Well, gee, you got me there, Frank. You must be feeling very good >> about yourself. A majority of American VOTERS elected him. Is that >> acceptable to you? >> >> - - - >> >> You miss the point completely. >> How can a majority of Americans disagree with his policies when he was >> elected president? A majority of Americans don't vote. Get it? > > > > "How can a majority of Americans disagree with his policies when he > was > elected president?" That's an interesting sentence. A majority of > Americans don't vote, but a majority of eligible voters DO vote, at > least they did in 2008. Eligible voters who opposed his policies then, > but didn't bother voting, have only themselves to blame. > > - - - > > That's my point. Congrats. > And the non-voters are awakening. Be afraid Dems.
From: MNMikeW on 5 Aug 2010 10:51
"BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message news:MPG.26c3b8cdc24ebb6f98a1bb(a)news.giganews.com... > In article <0bfb8dd8-47d3-4bbb-9047-ed16d676c930 > @s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... >> >> On Aug 4, 3:52 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: >> > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message >> > >> > news:alangbaker-CD69E0.11575304082010(a)news.shawcable.com... >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > In article >> > > <a78ef6da-c403-4b76-8952-6a6acd495...(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, >> > > dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote: >> > >> > >> I've had quite a while to think about Bummer Care. Callous or not, >> > >> that's my opinion. >> > >> Probably the majority of people in the US agree that the Bummer Care >> > >> is a bad plan and not worth what it will cost in $. There's not even >> > >> any conclusive proof that it will be better at saving any of those >> > >> innocent lives you are worried about. It doesn't even kick in for 10 >> > >> years. Wanna bet that the government finds a way to raid that fund >> > >> too >> > >> (like others)... and it never actually kicks in at all? >> > >> > > Nope. >> > >> > > That's not my point. >> > >> > > Someone says: "This will cost lives", and your reply is: "Meh.". >> > >> > > Justify it to yourself any way you like. >> > >> > The majority of Americans didn't want Obama care. A majority of >> > Americans >> > have opposed all of Obama's major policies. The polls aren't secret. It >> > isn't a surprise that Obama is polling at 41% approval if all of his >> > major >> > policies were against the wishes of the majority of Americans. >> > >> > It will be refreshing to have a government of the people by the people >> > for >> > the people instead of a government of the government by the government >> > for >> > the government. >> > >> > The saving lives line is a canard. We all die. >> >> If a majority of Americans have opposed all of Obama's major policies, >> then why did a majority of Americans elect him to be president? He >> said during the campaign that he wanted to do health care, he wanted >> to do a stimulus package, he wanted to do financial services reform. >> So what happened? Did people change their minds about what they wanted? > > Because the believed in his false promises while he was campaigning. > Obama is kind of like a snake oil salesman, lots of promises but > delivers nothing. > He's delivered plenty so far Bert. Most don't like what he's delivered but he did deliver. |