Shaft Stiffness and Irons
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From: David Laville on 8 Feb 2007 22:02 On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:54:51 GMT, Bobby Knight <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote: >The sheer volume of print that you have to use for such a simple thing >is telling. You have to obfuscate because you just don't know what >you're talking about. > >I'm done with this because your arguments are circular, and >unimpressive. Bobby, did you take the troll bait again? David Laville, G.S.E.M. The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor TB-8982
From: David Laville on 8 Feb 2007 22:03 On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 16:13:39 GMT, "bill-o" <assimilate(a)borg.org> wrote: >Perhaps you don't understand that people are individuals (c-�-d diff�rent) >that require individual (c-�-d diff�rent) solutions. Do you really believe >that everyone should swing with the same shaft? Your absolute statements are >worthy of LLLarry. In case you haven't been paying attention he's been using Larry's modus operandi as a troll. It works, see how many people take the bait every time? David Laville, G.S.E.M. The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor TB-8982
From: Bobby Knight on 8 Feb 2007 22:09 On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 03:02:50 GMT, David Laville <dlaville(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote: >On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:54:51 GMT, Bobby Knight <bknight(a)conramp.net> >wrote: > > >>The sheer volume of print that you have to use for such a simple thing >>is telling. You have to obfuscate because you just don't know what >>you're talking about. >> >>I'm done with this because your arguments are circular, and >>unimpressive. > >Bobby, did you take the troll bait again? > > Nah....just baiting back. ___, \o | / \ . �Someone likes every shot� bk
From: bill-o on 9 Feb 2007 02:31 On 8-Feb-2007, David Laville <dlaville(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote: > In case you haven't been paying attention he's been using Larry's > modus operandi as a troll. It works, see how many people take the > bait every time? Well what do you expect? As a Qu�b�quois he doesn't even speak proper French! :-P -- bill-o A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.
From: Dave Lee on 9 Feb 2007 07:09
"Mike Dalecki" <mike(a)removeclubdoctor.com> wrote in message news:531ckaF1qkmtrU2(a)mid.individual.net... > Dave Lee wrote: > > I'm toying with the idea of building a new set of irons in the near future. > > At the rate that I typically proceed on such things that would mean calendar > > 2007 :-) > > > > An accepted "golf truism" that I have heard more than once is (roughly) "the > > right flex shaft is the most flex that you can control" (where stiffer means > > less flex). Particularly with irons I wonder why it really shouldn't be "the > > stiffest flex that you can tolerate swinging". > > > > I know that I seriously dislike driver shafts with stiff tips. I honestly > > don't know if they hit the ball worse for me (or hell - maybe they are > > better). But I don't like the feel at impact. > > > > I don't seem to have that reaction to stiffer iron shafts. And I just don't > > see any upside to more flex other than how it feels. The downsides are more > > clubhead droop that will vary depending on how hard you swing the club and > > similar considerations for the other directions of shaft flex. The "droop > > thing" in particular seems to be a real negative to me as it means that if > > the lie is right on a full swing then it will almost have to be too upright > > for a chip shot. > > > > Any comments on this? I recall some discussion on this a while back, but I > > recall that it seemed to go off in other directions. Well, of course it did > > Dave - this is RSG :-) > > > > dave > > Much of the flex question revolves around how you swing a club. The > most flexible club you can handle tends to assume you have a smooth > swing; those who load the club fast, and swing fast, tend to need > stiffer shafts. > > To be honest with you, I think the best thing you can do--since you're > building them yourself--is simply try 2 or 3 variations and see what > feels the best. Most truisms, like what you quoted above, are > true--sometimes. > > Mike snip Mike, have kind of started a few experiments and will probably do more. I'm actually anticipating what to do if the outcome of these experiments is "I don't seem to have a preference". dave |