Shaft Stiffness and Irons
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From: Dave Lee on 11 Feb 2007 17:36 "Mike Dalecki" <mike(a)removeclubdoctor.com> wrote in message news:539hoaF1rkitbU1(a)mid.individual.net... > Dave Lee wrote: > > "Mike Dalecki" <mike(a)removeclubdoctor.com> wrote in message > > news:538oirF1qnts4U1(a)mid.individual.net... > > > >> I'll bet you do have a preference. You may find that you can make all > >> the variations work--if you swing them properly. > >> > >> But one will feel the most comfortable to you. > >> > >> I've noticed this with my own clubs (experimenting w/ drivers and > >> shafts). I *can* make a stiff shaft perform in the driver--and in fact, > >> I can produce some pretty good results with it, good distance. But I > >> have to jump on it to get it to load and unload at the right time. > >> > >> But that's not what I'm swinging. I want something more flexible, > >> because I'm trying to get the same swing with the woods as I use with > >> the irons. The last year or so, a lot of my practice has been focusing > >> on lag, and I have a very difficult time maintaining that if I have to > >> swing quickly--too easy for me to come over the top. > >> > >> So something that responds better to my lag, and even requires me to > >> wait a bit for the club, works better for me. > >> > >> When you experiment, make sure you have some pretty significant > >> differences at the margins, at least at the beginning. Don't, for > >> instance, tip 1/4" more shaft and expect you'll find a major difference > >> you can feel. > >> > >> If it were me, I'd try to define a shaft that was too stiff, and one > >> that was too flexible. Then I'd define the point between them where i > >> didn't have to work to make the club perform. > >> > >> Mike > > snip > > > > Mike, that is good advice and probably something that I will do. > > > > But I do find it surprising that on a side-by-side test of the same > > clubheads - one on an A flex shaft (37 7/8" at 295 cpm) and an identical > > clubhead on a stock Hogan #4 (stiff) shaft - I don't really seem to have a > > preference. > > > > However, my lag is not that good and it really may not matter much. > > > > dave > > > > > > Have you spec'd the hogan stiff shaft? I could tell you stories.... > > Mike > > -- > Mike Dalecki GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://clubdoctor.com > RSG-Wisconsin 2007: June 22-24----Lawsonia! I don't have the ability to profile it. I could measure the butt frequency if I would just remove the grip. I have done a similar experiment with two different TT DG S300 shafts vs. TT A flex Tx-90 with similar results. This comparison wasn't as clean as the clubheads were also different. In fact one of those was on a Cleveland TA3 (moderate cavity back) where I kept thinking "surely I'll feel something more forgiving about this vs. my blade. So I put a matching TX-90 shaft in the TA3. I have a hard time finding anything "that I like better". But as I said in the forgiving irons thread, I don't like my 1960's Walter Hagen blade with the bent shaft. So I'm only using straight ones from now on :-) dave
From: greenkeeper on 11 Feb 2007 17:38 In message <539hoaF1rkitbU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Mike Dalecki <mike(a)removeclubdoctor.com> writes >Dave Lee wrote: >> "Mike Dalecki" <mike(a)removeclubdoctor.com> wrote in message >> news:538oirF1qnts4U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> >>> I'll bet you do have a preference. You may find that you can make >>>all >>> the variations work--if you swing them properly. >>> >>> But one will feel the most comfortable to you
From: greenkeeper on 11 Feb 2007 18:02 In message <iu3gjDXQr5zFFwBX(a)alancampbell.demon.co.uk>, greenkeeper <greenkeeper(a)xxxalancampbell.demon.co.uk> writes >In message <539hoaF1rkitbU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Mike Dalecki ><mike(a)removeclubdoctor.com> writes >>Dave Lee wrote: >>> "Mike Dalecki" <mike(a)removeclubdoctor.com> wrote in message >>> news:538oirF1qnts4U1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> >>>> I'll bet you do have a preference. You may find that you can make >>>> >>>> the variations work--if you swing them properly. >>>> >>>> But one will feel the most comfortable to you Sorry nothing seemed to come through the first time. Hi Mike, I am currently using a set of Spalding Topflite Custom Mades with ProjectX shafts medium to slightly stiff. Lofts 50� PW then 4� increments downwards. I am thinking of pulling these and putting them in a set of Hogan Apex II, do you think this will work? Looking at the same loft progression in the Apex. Will have to think about these for my Apex Pc's I have in the US. I really like the Project X in the Spaldings. The weather at the moment!! http://www.pbase.com/alancampbell/image/73008534/medium -- alan -- alan
From: Otto on 11 Feb 2007 18:23 How many holes of golf have you played? Otto "Dave Lee" <DaveLeeNC(a)ix.netcom.RemovE.com> wrote in message news:ouNzh.530$x74.100(a)newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Make you a deal. I'll give you $1 for every ball that you've hit in the past > two weeks if you'll give me $.50 for everyone that I've hit :-). > > In fact this whole thing process started because I have literally worn out > my PW (a common practice club for me). It no longer has a bottom groove.
From: Dave Lee on 11 Feb 2007 18:43
"Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:ivNzh.4254$6a.2535(a)bignews4.bellsouth.net... > How many holes of golf have you played? > > Otto > > > "Dave Lee" <DaveLeeNC(a)ix.netcom.RemovE.com> wrote in message > news:ouNzh.530$x74.100(a)newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > Make you a deal. I'll give you $1 for every ball that you've hit in the > past > > two weeks if you'll give me $.50 for everyone that I've hit :-). > > > > In fact this whole thing process started because I have literally worn out > > my PW (a common practice club for me). It no longer has a bottom groove. > > I play twice/week and practice 4-5x/week (fortunate to be retired and healthy). Used to play 3x/week but prefer this format for now. Am getting pressure from some friends/relatives so I can see 3x/week in the near future (for better or worse). dave |