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From: Otto on 6 Feb 2007 17:57 "Dave Lee" <DaveLeeNC(a)ix.netcom.RemovE.com> wrote in message news:Sk7yh.19809$yx6.2784(a)newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > I really only had two strong reactions to all this. > > 1) It is REALLY fun to hit a 2i well. Nuff said. If you had to feed your family with a 220 yard shot then screw the 2i. But when you are out to enjoy the game of golf, all the mishits are worth that one sweet 2i. It's what I call a TV shot. When you hit it right, there isn't anyone on TV that can do better and it always brings you back. Otto
From: Birdie Bill on 6 Feb 2007 19:57 On Feb 6, 12:02 pm, "Martin Levac" <v...(a)REMOVEvideotron.ca> wrote: > Do you remember the advice you were given a long time ago when you started > playing? "Let the club do the work." When I use the driver, I'm not trying > to send the ball far, the club will do that for me nicely with its long > shaft and low loft, I just want to send the ball straight. Here is what Ernest Jones has to say about that: [begin quote] Unfortunately, in seeking instruction, the hacker is frequently told: "Let the club do the work." The teacher knows what he has in mind, and it is correct. But he has used the wrong words. What he means is that you cannot move the clubhead faster than you can swing it. So he should tell you to swing the clubhead. But he says: "Let the club do the work." What sometimes happens is that the hacker transposes from one failing to another. He then tries to let the club do the work -- without his participation. He does not use his hands, perhaps because he hasn't been told about the "feel" of the swing, lets the club fall against the ball. It is a fluffy stroke without any power or authority motivating the club's action. There must be force in the swing. When the hacker learns that force comes through controlling the clubhead with the hands and fingers, he is ready to move into the class of the swinger, where all good golfers belong. [end quote]
From: Martin Levac on 6 Feb 2007 21:50 "Birdie Bill" <bighorn_bill(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1170809842.935863.96770(a)l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > On Feb 6, 12:02 pm, "Martin Levac" <v...(a)REMOVEvideotron.ca> wrote: >> Do you remember the advice you were given a long time ago when you >> started >> playing? "Let the club do the work." When I use the driver, I'm not >> trying >> to send the ball far, the club will do that for me nicely with its long >> shaft and low loft, I just want to send the ball straight. > > Here is what Ernest Jones has to say about that: > > [begin quote] > > Unfortunately, in seeking instruction, the hacker is frequently told: > "Let the club do the work." > > The teacher knows what he has in mind, and it is correct. But he > has used the wrong words. What he means is that you cannot > move the clubhead faster than you can swing it. So he should > tell you to swing the clubhead. But he says: "Let the club do > the work." > > What sometimes happens is that the hacker transposes from > one failing to another. He then tries to let the club do the work > -- without his participation. He does not use his hands, perhaps > because he hasn't been told about the "feel" of the swing, lets > the club fall against the ball. It is a fluffy stroke without any > power or authority motivating the club's action. > > There must be force in the swing. When the hacker learns that > force comes through controlling the clubhead with the hands > and fingers, he is ready to move into the class of the swinger, > where all good golfers belong. > > [end quote] > > That quote doesn't fit with what I wrote. I other words, you quote the very same words I wrote in a context that is different than the one I wrote them for. The context I wrote them in is this: Far versus close and the function for which the club was designed. The context you quote them in is this: Apply force versus not. I have difficulty deciding whether you did this on purpose to confuse the subject or if you simply wanted to point out that the words "Let the club do the work" can be used in a different context than my original text or if you are simply stupid.
From: Birdie Bill on 6 Feb 2007 22:21 On Feb 6, 8:50 pm, "Martin Levac" <v...(a)REMOVEvideotron.ca> wrote: > "Birdie Bill" <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1170809842.935863.96770(a)l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On Feb 6, 12:02 pm, "Martin Levac" <v...(a)REMOVEvideotron.ca> wrote: > >> Do you remember the advice you were given a long time ago when you > >> started > >> playing? "Let the club do the work." When I use the driver, I'm not > >> trying > >> to send the ball far, the club will do that for me nicely with its long > >> shaft and low loft, I just want to send the ball straight. > > > Here is what Ernest Jones has to say about that: > > > [begin quote] > > > Unfortunately, in seeking instruction, the hacker is frequently told: > > "Let the club do the work." > > > The teacher knows what he has in mind, and it is correct. But he > > has used the wrong words. What he means is that you cannot > > move the clubhead faster than you can swing it. So he should > > tell you to swing the clubhead. But he says: "Let the club do > > the work." > > > What sometimes happens is that the hacker transposes from > > one failing to another. He then tries to let the club do the work > > -- without his participation. He does not use his hands, perhaps > > because he hasn't been told about the "feel" of the swing, lets > > the club fall against the ball. It is a fluffy stroke without any > > power or authority motivating the club's action. > > > There must be force in the swing. When the hacker learns that > > force comes through controlling the clubhead with the hands > > and fingers, he is ready to move into the class of the swinger, > > where all good golfers belong. > > > [end quote] > > That quote doesn't fit with what I wrote. I other words, you quote the very > same words I wrote in a context that is different than the one I wrote them > for. > > The context I wrote them in is this: Far versus close and the function for > which the club was designed. > > The context you quote them in is this: Apply force versus not. > > I have difficulty deciding whether you did this on purpose to confuse the > subject or if you simply wanted to point out that the words "Let the club do > the work" can be used in a different context than my original text or if you > are simply stupid.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Liar. Idiot.
From: Martin Levac on 6 Feb 2007 22:26
"Martin Levac" <vac3(a)REMOVEvideotron.ca> wrote in message news:f7byh.46132$3D6.1628737(a)weber.videotron.net... > > "Birdie Bill" <bighorn_bill(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1170809842.935863.96770(a)l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> On Feb 6, 12:02 pm, "Martin Levac" <v...(a)REMOVEvideotron.ca> wrote: >>> Do you remember the advice you were given a long time ago when you >>> started >>> playing? "Let the club do the work." When I use the driver, I'm not >>> trying >>> to send the ball far, the club will do that for me nicely with its long >>> shaft and low loft, I just want to send the ball straight. >> >> Here is what Ernest Jones has to say about that: >> >> [begin quote] >> >> Unfortunately, in seeking instruction, the hacker is frequently told: >> "Let the club do the work." >> >> The teacher knows what he has in mind, and it is correct. But he >> has used the wrong words. What he means is that you cannot >> move the clubhead faster than you can swing it. So he should >> tell you to swing the clubhead. But he says: "Let the club do >> the work." >> >> What sometimes happens is that the hacker transposes from >> one failing to another. He then tries to let the club do the work >> -- without his participation. He does not use his hands, perhaps >> because he hasn't been told about the "feel" of the swing, lets >> the club fall against the ball. It is a fluffy stroke without any >> power or authority motivating the club's action. >> >> There must be force in the swing. When the hacker learns that >> force comes through controlling the clubhead with the hands >> and fingers, he is ready to move into the class of the swinger, >> where all good golfers belong. >> >> [end quote] >> >> > > That quote doesn't fit with what I wrote. I other words, you quote the > very same words I wrote in a context that is different than the one I > wrote them for. > > The context I wrote them in is this: Far versus close and the function for > which the club was designed. > > The context you quote them in is this: Apply force versus not. > > I have difficulty deciding whether you did this on purpose to confuse the > subject or if you simply wanted to point out that the words "Let the club > do the work" can be used in a different context than my original text or > if you are simply stupid. > My apology, Bill, I didn't mean to write "stupid". What I meant to write was "not sufficiently intelligent to understand the text". I wouldn't want you to think that I'm trying to insult you or anything like that. |