From: bill-o on

On 6-Feb-2007, "Martin Levac" <vac3(a)REMOVEvideotron.ca> wrote:

> Perhaps I do understand but I'm just an individual requiring an individual
> solution. I don't believe anything. Don't let that stop you from believing
> anything you want, though.

C'est vraiment con

--
bill-o

A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.
From: Howard Brazee on
On 6 Feb 2007 16:57:22 -0800, "Birdie Bill" <bighorn_bill(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Unfortunately, in seeking instruction, the hacker is frequently told:
>"Let the club do the work."

That can work - with a pro who is watching your response to his
instruction and giving you feedback until you "get" it.

From: Birdie Bill on
On Feb 7, 9:06 am, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote:
> On 6 Feb 2007 16:57:22 -0800, "Birdie Bill" <bighorn_b...(a)hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Unfortunately, in seeking instruction, the hacker is frequently told:
> >"Let the club do the work."
>
> That can work - with a pro who is watching your response to his
> instruction and giving you feedback until you "get" it.

Yeah, but I like the full quote better. It is worth repeating
again, just in case someone has a false idea what Ernest Jones
was preaching with his "swing the clubhead" method:

[begin quote]

Unfortunately, in seeking instruction, the hacker is frequently told:
"Let the club do the work."

The teacher knows what he has in mind, and it is correct. But he
has used the wrong words. What he means is that you cannot
move the clubhead faster than you can swing it. So he should
tell you to swing the clubhead. But he says: "Let the club do
the work."

What sometimes happens is that the hacker transposes from
one failing to another. He then tries to let the club do the work
-- without his participation. He does not use his hands, perhaps
because he hasn't been told about the "feel" of the swing, lets
the club fall against the ball. It is a fluffy stroke without any
power or authority motivating the club's action.

There must be force in the swing. When the hacker learns that
force comes through controlling the clubhead with the hands
and fingers, he is ready to move into the class of the swinger,
where all good golfers belong.

[end quote]



From: Rex on
Snip ..
"). Maybe I liked #4 and #7 a bit better - maybe. Yesterday I loved #4
> and today it was more neutral. But I'll swear that I'd alternate between
> the
> stiff shafted Apex 5i and the A flex Apex 5i and while they didn't feel
> the
> same, I honestly don't know which one I preferred.
>
> Tough to be a real darksider when everything tastes like vanilla :-)
>
> dave
>
Dave

Do all the irons have the same swingweight and overall weight. Overall
weight may be the influencing factor here. Just a thought.

Rex


From: Dave Lee on

"Rex" <rexroh(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:eqd9oj$6bv$1(a)aioe.org...
> Snip ..
> "). Maybe I liked #4 and #7 a bit better - maybe. Yesterday I loved #4
> > and today it was more neutral. But I'll swear that I'd alternate between
> > the
> > stiff shafted Apex 5i and the A flex Apex 5i and while they didn't feel
> > the
> > same, I honestly don't know which one I preferred.
> >
> > Tough to be a real darksider when everything tastes like vanilla :-)
> >
> > dave
> >
> Dave
>
> Do all the irons have the same swingweight and overall weight. Overall
> weight may be the influencing factor here. Just a thought.
>
> Rex
>
>

Swingweights are similar. But with different shaft weights (and similar club
lengths) there are obviously total weight differences. Of course the issue
here is lack of a preference. I'm tempted to take a different tack on this
and attempt to build a 5/6 i that I absolute hate. Maybe that would be a
start - i'm not kidding, BTW.

dave