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From: sammy on 4 Nov 2007 19:39 On Nov 4, 1:16 pm, WW <dirt...(a)msn.com> wrote: > I tend to avoid hitting my lower irons as I hit a slice more times > than not. When I do hit the lower irons I aim left to compensate. I > was wondering why I slice only the low irons (3-4). I'm thinking I > need to place the ball more forward in my stance so I hit it later in > my swing. If I'm slicing all my irons I know I'm not getting the > weight off my rear leg but that's not the case. Also I'm very > conscience of taking a verticle swing so I'm not swinging around my > body. I have not gone to the range to try to figure it out, just > wanted some suggestions. Make sure you realize that trying to swing in an upright arc tends to encourage you to pick up the club instead of swing it back, which can encourage a slice, especially with longer clubs. To help fix this, picture that there is a tee in the grass (you could even put them there for an excercise) about 6 inches behind your back foot. Trying to clip that tee with the clubhead on your way back, therefore making sure that you swing back instead of pick up the club. I have trouble with long irons, too. To me it demands more precise swing mechanics.
From: Rob Davis on 4 Nov 2007 20:08 SteveB wrote: > "WW" <dirtymm(a)msn.com> wrote in message > news:1194211006.032036.127980(a)22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... > >>I tend to avoid hitting my lower irons as I hit a slice more times >>than not. When I do hit the lower irons I aim left to compensate. I >>was wondering why I slice only the low irons (3-4). I'm thinking I >>need to place the ball more forward in my stance so I hit it later in >>my swing. If I'm slicing all my irons I know I'm not getting the >>weight off my rear leg but that's not the case. Also I'm very >>conscience of taking a verticle swing so I'm not swinging around my >>body. I have not gone to the range to try to figure it out, just >>wanted some suggestions. >> > > > I, too, have this problem, but with a three. Can anyone cite a site that > explains the slice/hook thing in words a common man can understand? > > Sometimes it goes straight as an arrow, and other times, people behind me > are at risk. > > Steve > Pretty simple to describe ... but more difficult to change. The basic cause of a slice (which is the same as a "fade" but more) is that the clubface is open in relation to the swing path (typically out-to-in on a fade/slice). A draw/hook is the opposite ... club face closed (again in ralation to the swing path), and usually the path is in-to-out. I highly recommend you spring for a copy of John Jacobs "Practical Golf" if you're interested in understanding this in a little more detail. Rob
From: glfnaz on 4 Nov 2007 20:41 "WW" <dirtymm(a)msn.com> wrote in message news:1194211006.032036.127980(a)22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... >I tend to avoid hitting my lower irons as I hit a slice more times > than not. When I do hit the lower irons I aim left to compensate. I > was wondering why I slice only the low irons (3-4). I'm thinking I > need to place the ball more forward in my stance so I hit it later in > my swing. If I'm slicing all my irons I know I'm not getting the > weight off my rear leg but that's not the case. Also I'm very > conscience of taking a verticle swing so I'm not swinging around my > body. I have not gone to the range to try to figure it out, just > wanted some suggestions. > Forget the verticle swing stuff. When you hit a short iron, the shaft is in a more upright plane ( by design), and you are standing close to the target line because the shaft is short. When you use a long club, the shaft is in a flatter lie ( by design) and you are standing further away from the ball. If you make the same verticle swing with the long iron as the short iron, you are too steep with the long club. Off Plane. When your arms are 1/2 way back--or when your arms are parallel to the ground, the butt end of the club should point to the ball - to - target line. So with a sand wedge, the club is kind of steep. But with a 3 iron, because the club is longer and you stand further from the ball - to - target line, the club must be flatter than the sand wedge when pointing at the line. It doesn't matter what club you have in your hand, the low point of the club always points to the ball - to - target line. Thats On- Plane. You are simply too steep with the long clubs and over the top. A trick--forget about taking the club inside with your hands and arms. Just let the hands and arms go staright back--but allow the butt end of the club to point to the target line simply by a slight rotation of the left forearm from the shoulder joint. The hands will go in slightly from body rotation, but let it happen naturally.
From: glfnaz on 4 Nov 2007 20:44 "Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:JYsXi.3067$di.2044(a)bignews9.bellsouth.net... > > "WW" <dirtymm(a)msn.com> wrote in message > news:1194211006.032036.127980(a)22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... >>Also I'm very >> conscience of taking a verticle swing so I'm not swinging around my >> body. > > If the ball is starting on the proper line but is slicing, then you are > cutting across the ball at impact(outside-in). > > As a band aid, you might try closing your stance on your longer irons. > > Swinging around your body does not have to cause a slice. If you are short > and stocky, a flatter swing plane is generally more effective. The more > upright swing planes generally work better for the taller golfers. > > The plane your are looking for cuts from your neck to the ball. The taller > you are, the more upright it becomes. > > Otto The further you stand from the ball, the flatter this must be. And, the plane is not through the neck, it is through the turned rear shoulder on one end, and the ball to target line on the other.
From: larryrsf on 5 Nov 2007 12:26
On Nov 4, 1:16 pm, WW <dirt...(a)msn.com> wrote: > I tend to avoid hitting my lower irons as I hit a slice more times > than not. When I do hit the lower irons I aim left to compensate. I > was wondering why I slice only the low irons (3-4). I'm thinking I > need to place the ball more forward in my stance so I hit it later in > my swing. If I'm slicing all my irons I know I'm not getting the > weight off my rear leg but that's not the case. Also I'm very > conscience of taking a verticle swing so I'm not swinging around my > body. I have not gone to the range to try to figure it out, just > wanted some suggestions." Aggressively close the clubface through impact. It is a good swing thought to focus on the toe of the club, keep it pointing away from you during backswing and close it through impact (like a hockey slap shot) and then point it up when the clubshaft is aligned with the target after impact. The clubhead swings AROUND us far more like a baseball swing. Another good method is to envision the LONG divot to be made as you strike any iron. The divot should extend toward the target and then slightly inside. Envision the divot, then make it happen. If you have to step over like Gary Player did to get your weight forward, then do it! Most amateurs miss primarily because they lag back, swing with too much weight retained on their back foot. Never hit another ball fat. (late) Larry |