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From: Alan Baker on 5 Nov 2007 13:25 In article <1194283579.926002.43280(a)e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, larryrsf <larry(a)delmardata.com> wrote: > On Nov 4, 1:16 pm, WW <dirt...(a)msn.com> wrote: > > I tend to avoid hitting my lower irons as I hit a slice more times > > than not. When I do hit the lower irons I aim left to compensate. I > > was wondering why I slice only the low irons (3-4). I'm thinking I > > need to place the ball more forward in my stance so I hit it later in > > my swing. If I'm slicing all my irons I know I'm not getting the > > weight off my rear leg but that's not the case. Also I'm very > > conscience of taking a verticle swing so I'm not swinging around my > > body. I have not gone to the range to try to figure it out, just > > wanted some suggestions." > > Aggressively close the clubface through impact. It is a good swing > thought to focus on the toe of the club, keep it pointing away from > you during backswing and close it through impact (like a hockey slap > shot) and then point it up when the clubshaft is aligned with the > target after impact. The clubhead swings AROUND us far more like a > baseball swing. I thought that there was no need to try and control the clubhead, Larry. In fact, I seem to recall you saying that any attempt to use the hands in the golfswing was doomed to fail. > > Another good method is to envision the LONG divot to be made as you > strike any iron. The divot should extend toward the target and then > slightly inside. Envision the divot, then make it happen. If you > have to step over like Gary Player did to get your weight forward, > then do it! Most amateurs miss primarily because they lag back, > swing with too much weight retained on their back foot. Never hit > another ball fat. (late) > > Larry -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia "If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
From: curtjester1 on 5 Nov 2007 14:01 On 4 Nov, 19:39, sammy <utilizational...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Nov 4, 1:16 pm, WW <dirt...(a)msn.com> wrote: > > > I tend to avoid hitting my lower irons as I hit a slice more times > > than not. When I do hit the lower irons I aim left to compensate. I > > was wondering why I slice only the low irons (3-4). I'm thinking I > > need to place the ball more forward in my stance so I hit it later in > > my swing. If I'm slicing all my irons I know I'm not getting the > > weight off my rear leg but that's not the case. Also I'm very > > conscience of taking a verticle swing so I'm not swinging around my > > body. I have not gone to the range to try to figure it out, just > > wanted some suggestions. > > Make sure you realize that trying to swing in an upright arc tends to > encourage you to pick up the club instead of swing it back, which can > encourage a slice, especially with longer clubs. To help fix this, > picture that there is a tee in the grass (you could even put them > there for an excercise) about 6 inches behind your back foot. Trying > to clip that tee with the clubhead on your way back, therefore making > sure that you swing back instead of pick up the club. > > I have trouble with long irons, too. To me it demands more precise > swing mechanics. Sometimes with the long irons it's harder to adjust to that the overall swing is at a much faster cadence than a three wood or driver. There are so many things to suggest. Maybe try getting in a positive way to your front foot with it firmly planted with your hip slightly turning toward the target when you are squaring the club at the impact area. It's easier to control getting the club faced closed when you have that firm planted front foot. CJ
From: Alan Illeman on 5 Nov 2007 15:06 "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:alangbaker-D4093C.10250805112007@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]... > In article <1194283579.926002.43280(a)e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, > larryrsf <larry(a)delmardata.com> wrote: > > > On Nov 4, 1:16 pm, WW <dirt...(a)msn.com> wrote: > > > I tend to avoid hitting my lower irons as I hit a slice more times > > > than not. When I do hit the lower irons I aim left to compensate. I > > > was wondering why I slice only the low irons (3-4). I'm thinking I > > > need to place the ball more forward in my stance so I hit it later in > > > my swing. If I'm slicing all my irons I know I'm not getting the > > > weight off my rear leg but that's not the case. Also I'm very > > > conscience of taking a verticle swing so I'm not swinging around my > > > body. I have not gone to the range to try to figure it out, just > > > wanted some suggestions." > > > > Aggressively close the clubface through impact. It is a good swing > > thought to focus on the toe of the club, keep it pointing away from > > you during backswing and close it through impact (like a hockey slap > > shot) and then point it up when the clubshaft is aligned with the > > target after impact. The clubhead swings AROUND us far more like a > > baseball swing. > > I thought that there was no need to try and control the clubhead, Larry. > In fact, I seem to recall you saying that any attempt to use the hands > in the golfswing was doomed to fail. Here we go again.
From: John van der Pflum on 5 Nov 2007 15:14 On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:06:24 -0500, "Alan Illeman" <illemann(a)surfbest.net> wrote: >"Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message >news:alangbaker-D4093C.10250805112007@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]... >> In article <1194283579.926002.43280(a)e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, >> larryrsf <larry(a)delmardata.com> wrote: >> >> > On Nov 4, 1:16 pm, WW <dirt...(a)msn.com> wrote: >> > > I tend to avoid hitting my lower irons as I hit a slice more times >> > > than not. When I do hit the lower irons I aim left to compensate. I >> > > was wondering why I slice only the low irons (3-4). I'm thinking I >> > > need to place the ball more forward in my stance so I hit it later in >> > > my swing. If I'm slicing all my irons I know I'm not getting the >> > > weight off my rear leg but that's not the case. Also I'm very >> > > conscience of taking a verticle swing so I'm not swinging around my >> > > body. I have not gone to the range to try to figure it out, just >> > > wanted some suggestions." >> > >> > Aggressively close the clubface through impact. It is a good swing >> > thought to focus on the toe of the club, keep it pointing away from >> > you during backswing and close it through impact (like a hockey slap >> > shot) and then point it up when the clubshaft is aligned with the >> > target after impact. The clubhead swings AROUND us far more like a >> > baseball swing. >> >> I thought that there was no need to try and control the clubhead, Larry. >> In fact, I seem to recall you saying that any attempt to use the hands >> in the golfswing was doomed to fail. > >Here we go again. That was my reaction as well. -- jvdp http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
From: Alan Baker on 5 Nov 2007 16:18
In article <8duui3tafkr64hdjb1vbh2oq4gl4geeua2(a)4ax.com>, John van der Pflum <nowhammymyspammy(a)bite.org> wrote: > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 15:06:24 -0500, "Alan Illeman" > <illemann(a)surfbest.net> wrote: > > >"Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > >news:alangbaker-D4093C.10250805112007@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]... > >> In article <1194283579.926002.43280(a)e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com>, > >> larryrsf <larry(a)delmardata.com> wrote: > >> > >> > On Nov 4, 1:16 pm, WW <dirt...(a)msn.com> wrote: > >> > > I tend to avoid hitting my lower irons as I hit a slice more times > >> > > than not. When I do hit the lower irons I aim left to compensate. I > >> > > was wondering why I slice only the low irons (3-4). I'm thinking I > >> > > need to place the ball more forward in my stance so I hit it later in > >> > > my swing. If I'm slicing all my irons I know I'm not getting the > >> > > weight off my rear leg but that's not the case. Also I'm very > >> > > conscience of taking a verticle swing so I'm not swinging around my > >> > > body. I have not gone to the range to try to figure it out, just > >> > > wanted some suggestions." > >> > > >> > Aggressively close the clubface through impact. It is a good swing > >> > thought to focus on the toe of the club, keep it pointing away from > >> > you during backswing and close it through impact (like a hockey slap > >> > shot) and then point it up when the clubshaft is aligned with the > >> > target after impact. The clubhead swings AROUND us far more like a > >> > baseball swing. > >> > >> I thought that there was no need to try and control the clubhead, Larry. > >> In fact, I seem to recall you saying that any attempt to use the hands > >> in the golfswing was doomed to fail. > > > >Here we go again. > > That was my reaction as well. I'm just helping the OP judge what weight to give Larry's advice. The fact that his advice changes from week to week gives one some idea of how much he actually understands. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia "If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard." |