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From: Bobby Knight on 5 Nov 2007 21:40 On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:56:43 -0500, BAR <ScrewYou(a)Your.Place> wrote: >larryrsf wrote: >> On Nov 5, 1:18 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> >>> I'm just helping the OP judge what weight to give Larry's advice. The >>> fact that his advice changes from week to week gives one some idea of >>> how much he actually understands. >> >> Love it. A high handicap hacker critiquing the swing advice of a >> solid 7 who usually shoots 80 or less from the tips. Alan is not >> qualified to clean my shoes. > >The only course you shoot 80 from the tips on is your local putt-putt. > >We have seen your swing. You have a vanity handicap. > >> Of course my swing advice changes; my whole concept of the golf swing >> and golf is still changing and I am discovering what works, pragmatic >> and practical. I have been playing only 6 years. I am learning what >> it takes to consistently hit fairways and greens. I am rapidly >> improving at age 66 BECAUSE I am not afraid to make adjustments. >> Those who are frozen to the "standard" stuff they hear from teaching >> pros and read in books are doomed to "paralysis by analysis" every >> time out. I love to play those guys, but it is pathetic to watch them >> agonize. They are afraid to do anything they haven't seen in a book. > >You are a golf infomercial producer's dream. A guy who chases each and >every new swing theory and most likely each new gadget. Yo BAR! I love it when we can agree. ___, \o | / \ . �Someone likes every shot� bk
From: larryrsf on 6 Nov 2007 13:05 On Nov 5, 6:40 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote: "We have seen your swing. You have a vanity handicap." A ridiculous conclusion. Nobody, not even an experienced teaching pro, can determine by watching a swing video whether a particular golfer has learned to score. It is even more ludicrous for an untrained amateur and a high handicapper himself to make such a conclusion. Not everyone, in fact only a small percentage of those amateurs who score low have a "pretty" conventional golf swing. You would condemn Alan Doyle, Lee Trevino, Moe Norman, Jim Furyk, and many others by watching their swing. All you need to know is that I hit fairways and greens. I am deadly with a LW and fair with a putter. Consequently I regularly shoot 80 from the blues. See ya out there. Larry
From: Bobby Knight on 6 Nov 2007 13:13 On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:05:18 -0800, larryrsf <larry(a)delmardata.com> wrote: >On Nov 5, 6:40 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote: > >"We have seen your swing. You have a vanity handicap." > >A ridiculous conclusion. Nobody, not even an experienced teaching >pro, can determine by watching a swing video whether a particular >golfer has learned to score. It is even more ludicrous for an >untrained amateur and a high handicapper himself to make such a >conclusion. Not everyone, in fact only a small percentage of those >amateurs who score low have a "pretty" conventional golf swing. >You would condemn Alan Doyle, Lee Trevino, Moe Norman, Jim Furyk, and >many others by watching their swing. > >All you need to know is that I hit fairways and greens. I am deadly >with a LW and fair with a putter. Consequently I regularly shoot 80 >from the blues. > >See ya out there. > >Larry > I'm sure that in your infinite wisdom, you know that you aren't replying to my post, but to Alan's. I don't know what his handicap is, but that has no bearing on being able to know the game of golf. One of the best teachers I ever had couldn't break 80, but he could teach golf. Are you comparing your swing to any of the above? Theirs is unorthodox, but smooth...yours??? Not so much. ___, \o | / \ . �Someone likes every shot� bk
From: Alan Baker on 6 Nov 2007 13:18 In article <1194372318.646571.261700(a)d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, larryrsf <larry(a)delmardata.com> wrote: > On Nov 5, 6:40 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote: > > "We have seen your swing. You have a vanity handicap." > > A ridiculous conclusion. Nobody, not even an experienced teaching > pro, can determine by watching a swing video whether a particular > golfer has learned to score. It is even more ludicrous for an > untrained amateur and a high handicapper himself to make such a > conclusion. Not everyone, in fact only a small percentage of those > amateurs who score low have a "pretty" conventional golf swing. > You would condemn Alan Doyle, Lee Trevino, Moe Norman, Jim Furyk, and > many others by watching their swing. > > All you need to know is that I hit fairways and greens. I am deadly > with a LW and fair with a putter. Consequently I regularly shoot 80 > from the blues. > > See ya out there. > > Larry Where "regularly" "occasionally" and you simply don't post the bad rounds you play... -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia "If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
From: larryrsf on 6 Nov 2007 13:21
On Nov 6, 10:13 am, Bobby Knight <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote: > On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:05:18 -0800, larryrsf <la...(a)delmardata.com> > wrote: > > > > > > >On Nov 5, 6:40 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote: > > >"We have seen your swing. You have a vanity handicap." > > >A ridiculous conclusion. Nobody, not even an experienced teaching > >pro, can determine by watching a swing video whether a particular > >golfer has learned to score. It is even more ludicrous for an > >untrained amateur and a high handicapper himself to make such a > >conclusion. Not everyone, in fact only a small percentage of those > >amateurs who score low have a "pretty" conventional golf swing. > >You would condemn Alan Doyle, Lee Trevino, Moe Norman, Jim Furyk, and > >many others by watching their swing. > > >All you need to know is that I hit fairways and greens. I am deadly > >with a LW and fair with a putter. Consequently I regularly shoot 80 > >from the blues. > > >See ya out there. > > >Larry > > I'm sure that in your infinite wisdom, you know that you aren't > replying to my post, but to Alan's. Who cares? I don't know what his handicap > is, but that has no bearing on being able to know the game of golf. > One of the best teachers I ever had couldn't break 80, but he could > teach golf. Are you comparing your swing to any of the above? > Theirs is unorthodox, but smooth...yours??? Not so much. But I hit every fairway in the last two rounds--EVERY fairway down the middle, 28 drives? Must be doing something right. And from one video clip months and months ago you could have little realistic idea. But that seems not to bother you much. Larry |