From: Fairway on
On Dec 3, 1:12 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:07:40 -0800 (PST), Fairway <armins...(a)yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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> >On Dec 3, 12:02 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 02:37:51 -0800 (PST), Fairway <armins...(a)yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
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> >> >The never let anyone play through? So why are they allowed to use the
> >> >course in the first place? Don´t you have any manners over there? F
>
> >> If they have holes open in front of them they should let them through.
> >> However, sometimes it doesn't help. Yesterday we called a twosome
> >> through our foursome, only to have them stalled behind the groups
> >> (several) in front of us. Really nowhere to go for them. There was
> >> also another twosome behind us. Why the pro shop didn't put these
> >> guys together is beyond me.
> >> bk
>
> >In Europe, at least where I´ve been around, it´s a rule of etiqette
> >that the solitary player has no right whatsoever. Let him through if
> >you feel like it - or don´t. But four guys are obliged to let a
> >twosome through, at least if there is an open hole in front of you.
> >The same applies if your foursome is slow and there is a group
> >waiting.
>
> That's the policy at our course.
>
> > I for one hate the feeling when a lonesome, unhappy fellow
> >stands there staring at me when I´m focusing on a 6-footer - so I let
> >him through. F
>
> Singles generally play in the late afternoon, and they may send out
> some very early, but I never see them. We play mid-mornings.
> I might add that we play fivesomes too. Sitll finish in less than
> four hours...as a rule.
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Less than four hours - then there is hardly much to complain about.
Reminds me of a very famous man who said that slow play was a sin, an
example of a selfish, un-Christian behaviour towards other people.
This was Mr. Thatcher, Margareth´s husband. F
From: The_Professor on
On Dec 3, 3:31 pm, Fairway <armins...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 3, 1:12 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote:
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> > On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:07:40 -0800 (PST), Fairway <armins...(a)yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
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> > >On Dec 3, 12:02 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote:
> > >> On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 02:37:51 -0800 (PST), Fairway <armins...(a)yahoo.com>
> > >> wrote:
>
> > >> >The never let anyone play through? So why are they allowed to use the
> > >> >course in the first place? Don´t you have any manners over there? F
>
> > >> If they have holes open in front of them they should let them through..
> > >> However, sometimes it doesn't help. Yesterday we called a twosome
> > >> through our foursome, only to have them stalled behind the groups
> > >> (several) in front of us. Really nowhere to go for them. There was
> > >> also another twosome behind us. Why the pro shop didn't put these
> > >> guys together is beyond me.
> > >> bk
>
> > >In Europe, at least where I´ve been around, it´s a rule of etiqette
> > >that the solitary player has no right whatsoever. Let him through if
> > >you feel like it - or don´t. But four guys are obliged to let a
> > >twosome through, at least if there is an open hole in front of you.
> > >The same applies if your foursome is slow and there is a group
> > >waiting.
>
> > That's the policy at our course.
>
> > > I for one hate the feeling when a lonesome, unhappy fellow
> > >stands there staring at me when I´m focusing on a 6-footer - so I let
> > >him through. F
>
> > Singles generally play in the late afternoon, and they may send out
> > some very early, but I never see them. We play mid-mornings.
> > I might add that we play fivesomes too. Sitll finish in less than
> > four hours...as a rule.
> > bk- Hide quoted text -
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> Less than four hours - then there is hardly much to complain about.
> Reminds me of a very famous man who said that slow play was a sin, an
> example of a selfish, un-Christian behaviour towards other people.
> This was Mr. Thatcher, Margareth´s husband. F- Hide quoted text -
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Different people have different expectations. I never golf as a single
on weekends, or when it is busy, for example, but late afternoons,
when there aren';t too many people out there the Tex types who won't
let people play through despite the fact the course is wide open as
pretty selfish, IMHO.

I can also report that I am not the only one who doesn't care for the
long drawn out gruesome weekend rounds. I grew up and up till about
the mid 1990's, regular men's groups rounds ararely took more than 3
hours. I could get there for the 8AM tee time and be home at noon.
Today, I get there for the 8AM tee time and am home at 2:30PM, which
more or less kills the day. For whatever reason, golf has become much
slower than in the past, so I no longer play in these men's
groups...but still I can get a 4some of friends together a dozen or so
times a year, go to a similar number of newsgroup outings, and then
there are regular outings like the local citywide seniors groups and a
few tournaments, but that's it for me for that sort of thing. If I
want to golf regularly, I have to do the late afternoon thing, and
about 1/2 the time at that I wind up as a single. Nice thing about the
late afternoon thing is that I have met a lot of really great guys who
are really avid golfers like me...and the men's groups are really
dying off fast. Most of them are lucky to get 3 5somes out anymore
whereas in the mid 1990's, they would shotgun 2 groups off every
teebox on the course at 8AM.
From: Bobby Knight on
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:40:09 -0800 (PST), The_Professor <dbid(a)att.net>
wrote:

>...and the men's groups are really
>dying off fast. Most of them are lucky to get 3 5somes out anymore
>whereas in the mid 1990's, they would shotgun 2 groups off every
>teebox on the course at 8AM.

That's a shame, but the opposite happens around here. Tuesdays
through Thursdays we have noon play of 8 to 14 groups that, and every
Friday (Men's day) tournament is loaded with players. Then there
are the monthly Men's Golf Association tournaments which are shot
gunned.
bk

From: The_Professor on
On Dec 3, 3:48 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:40:09 -0800 (PST), The_Professor <d...(a)att.net>
> wrote:
>
> >...and the men's groups are really
> >dying off fast. Most of them are lucky to get 3 5somes out anymore
> >whereas in the mid 1990's, they would shotgun 2 groups off every
> >teebox on the course at 8AM.
>
> That's a shame, but the opposite happens around here. Tuesdays
> through Thursdays we have noon play of 8 to 14 groups that, and every
> Friday (Men's day) tournament is loaded with players. Then there
> are the monthly Men's Golf Association tournaments which are shot
> gunned.
> bk

That's pretty good...and good to hear. Hopefully we can get the MGAs
back up around here.
From: Dene on
On Dec 3, 12:38 pm, Tex <marktexkoe...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 3, 1:44 pm, The_Professor <d...(a)att.net> wrote:
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> > On Dec 2, 12:21 pm, IcUrdazedandconfused <IcUrda...(a)confused.net>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:04:39 GMT, Robert Hamilton <D...(a)att.net>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > >Fairway wrote:
>
> > > >> On Dec 1, 3:14 pm, The_Professor <d...(a)att.net> wrote:
> > > >> > As I drove off, a 7some finished 18, and there
> > > >> > was a lineup behind them...a regular group of seniors I see there that
> > > >> > NEVER let anyone play though. I felt sorry for the other people who
> > > >> > had to suffer through the fact that this group was on the course.
>
> > > >> The never let anyone play through? So why are they allowed to use the
> > > >> course in the first place? Don´t you have any manners over there? F
>
> > > >It's a pretty common thing in the US. These guys are a regular group of
> > > >seniors who play at this course. I guess they think they have greater right
> > > >to the course than anyone else. I wonder what would happen if someone got in
> > > >front of them and played annoyingly slower than them?
>
> > > Played as a single on a course up in Nashville, and I had two groups
> > > of four ignore me for several holes, before I had to finally go up and
> > > ask them if I could please go through....- Hide quoted text -
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> > Wait till you do that and they refuse. Then you'll really feel the
> > love! Especially if you are walking!
>
> Yeah, it's pretty scary when the big bad foursome says no and you have
> to stand there and do nothing for 7 minutes.
>
> Tex- Hide quoted text -
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You got those 7 mins. covered, don't ya Cal. 3.5 mins. for each beer.

-Greg
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