From: newellsatwsu on
On Dec 6, 11:53 am, Dene <gdst...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> Hello Newt. I wouldn't expect a weak person like yourself to be able
> to understand or stand up for moral cause. You just keep worshipping
> your buddy Tex.

The fact that I spend time with him and maintain a friendship you
equate to worship?

> > Is anticipating the end of Bobby's life acceptable or OTT?
>
> "Anticipating" is a deceptive choice of words on your part.

What would you label it as then? I think anticipating is pretty
fair...I'll let the reader decide. You've mentioned it here more than
once...it's obviously on your mind when you think of BK and want to
slander him.

> > Is threatening someone with a lawsuit acceptable or OTT?
>
> You brought a private matter into RSG.

You showed me the real person you are. I didn't want it to remain
innocuous.

> > What moral ground are you standing on Greg? Or do you get to decide
> > what's "nonsense" vs. what's real for all of us?
>
> I think it's wrong to bring one's wife into a fracas. Do you agree?
> (careful...your answer requires courage).

I agree, you won't see me doing that...just my personal standard.

I think your past behaviors negate any qualities of moral judgement
you posess about criticizing others behavior around here -- that's all.
From: Alan Baker on
In article
<c9e4d8b8-fd54-4ee3-9abd-b057870667de(a)e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Dene <gdstrue(a)aol.com> wrote:

> On Dec 5, 9:12 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
>
> > No, Greg. *Your* behaviour shows that it doesn't bother *you* that much.
> >
> > If it bothered you so much, why did you identify to whom Tex was
> > referring?
>
> Alan....do you live for this kind of silly nitpicking? Isn't it ski
> bum season yet? Read my original response to his insult. I used the
> words, "considered the source" which means I wasn't personally
> insulted by his words. They didn't bother me. My self image is
> immune to his types.
>
> > > The issue is whether it bothers you, the reader. That's the answer to
> > > your question, Alan. I knew his latest insult would require some
> > > context to the reader so I gave it. It isn't his first time insulting
> > > my wife or another. Providing his history allows everyone to be on
> > > the same page and personally deciding whether it's ok to disparage
> > > somebody's wife.
> >
> > And remaining silent would have left what he said something so innocuous
> > that many wouldn't have even known it was an insult...
>
> Which is precisely why the reader needed to know the context, so they
> (the reader) could decide if these types of OTT insults are
> acceptable. I didn't want it to remain innocuous. It's happened
> before. Will it happen again? I hope not. Perhaps a little peer
> pressure might insure that wives stay out of the fray.
>
> You're not married, are you?
>
> -Greg

Let me get this straight:

You claim not to be bothered.

People who didn't know the context couldn't take it as an insult to your
wife because of that fact, so cannot have been made to think any less of
her.

So you thought the best thing to do was to make sure they could see it
as an insult...

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
From: Dene on
On Dec 6, 12:29 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> In article
> <c9e4d8b8-fd54-4ee3-9abd-b05787066...(a)e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> Dene <gdst...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 5, 9:12 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
>
> > > No, Greg. *Your* behaviour shows that it doesn't bother *you* that much.
>
> > > If it bothered you so much, why did you identify to whom Tex was
> > > referring?
>
> > Alan....do you live for this kind of silly nitpicking? Isn't it ski
> > bum season yet? Read my original response to his insult. I used the
> > words, "considered the source" which means I wasn't personally
> > insulted by his words. They didn't bother me. My self image is
> > immune to his types.
>
> > > > The issue is whether it bothers you, the reader. That's the answer to
> > > > your question, Alan. I knew his latest insult would require some
> > > > context to the reader so I gave it. It isn't his first time insulting
> > > > my wife or another. Providing his history allows everyone to be on
> > > > the same page and personally deciding whether it's ok to disparage
> > > > somebody's wife.
>
> > > And remaining silent would have left what he said something so innocuous
> > > that many wouldn't have even known it was an insult...
>
> > Which is precisely why the reader needed to know the context, so they
> > (the reader) could decide if these types of OTT insults are
> > acceptable. I didn't want it to remain innocuous. It's happened
> > before. Will it happen again? I hope not. Perhaps a little peer
> > pressure might insure that wives stay out of the fray.
>
> > You're not married, are you?
>
> > -Greg
>
> Let me get this straight:
>
> You claim not to be bothered.
>
> People who didn't know the context couldn't take it as an insult to your
> wife because of that fact, so cannot have been made to think any less of
> her.
>
> So you thought the best thing to do was to make sure they could see it
> as an insult...
>

Bingo....and before this goes any further, you answer this question.
Is it ok with you to insult one's wife within this forum or any
other. That's the issue. Your answer is......

-Greg
From: Dene on
On Dec 6, 12:24 pm, newellsatwsu <newellat...(a)adelphia.net> wrote:
> On Dec 6, 11:53 am, Dene <gdst...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello Newt. I wouldn't expect a weak person like yourself to be able
> > to understand or stand up for moral cause. You just keep worshipping
> > your buddy Tex.
>
> The fact that I spend time with him and maintain a friendship you
> equate to worship?

Referring to Mark as "the big brother I never had" comes pretty dang
close to it.

> > > Is anticipating the end of Bobby's life acceptable or OTT?
>
> > "Anticipating" is a deceptive choice of words on your part.
>
> What would you label it as then? I think anticipating is pretty
> fair...I'll let the reader decide. You've mentioned it here more than
> once...it's obviously on your mind when you think of BK and want to
> slander him.

It's in the context of life expectancy and what one should do with
their remaining years. Spending your retired years monitoring usenet
groups is a pathetic waste.

> > > Is threatening someone with a lawsuit acceptable or OTT?
>
> > You brought a private matter into RSG.
>
> You showed me the real person you are. I didn't want it to remain
> innocuous.

You brought it into RSG. In fact, you posted a private e-mails. That
shows me what kind of person you are.

> > > What moral ground are you standing on Greg? Or do you get to decide
> > > what's "nonsense" vs. what's real for all of us?
>
> > I think it's wrong to bring one's wife into a fracas. Do you agree?
> > (careful...your answer requires courage).
>
> I agree, you won't see me doing that...just my personal standard.

I'm stunned.

> I think your past behaviors negate any qualities of moral judgement
> you posess about criticizing others behavior around here -- that's all.

If that's the case, then you should be careful about passing judgment
towards me. Cowardice and betrayal rank high on my list of negative
behaviors. You are foremost in both categories.

-Greg
From: John van der Pflum on
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 12:41:07 -0800 (PST), Dene <gdstrue(a)aol.com> wrote:

>
>It's in the context of life expectancy and what one should do with
>their remaining years. Spending your retired years monitoring usenet
>groups is a pathetic waste.

Some people might think it is a pathetic waste to purchase a large
boat and drive it up and down the nearest waterway. Some people might
think it is a waste to spend hundreds of dollars organizing and
hosting a golf event. Some people might think it is a total waste to
walk around the woods taking pictures of wildlife. Some people might
think it is a total waste memorizing the words to "Scotland the
Brave." Some people might think it is a total waste to play the
guitar or trombone. Some people might think it is a total waste learn
to fly an airplane.

Why is it for you or anyone else to decide the right way for someone
to spend their time? Personally, I think boating is about the most
boring thing in the world but you seem to enjoy it so why on earth
would I insult your chosen pasttime unless I bear a grudge against you
and do it just to be mean spirited?
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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