From: Alan Baker on
In article
<c09a39f2-ef43-4e69-a00e-215aa0f4f9e4(a)e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Dene <gdstrue(a)aol.com> wrote:

> On Dec 6, 12:29 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <c9e4d8b8-fd54-4ee3-9abd-b05787066...(a)e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dene <gdst...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Dec 5, 9:12 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > No, Greg. *Your* behaviour shows that it doesn't bother *you* that much.
> >
> > > > If it bothered you so much, why did you identify to whom Tex was
> > > > referring?
> >
> > > Alan....do you live for this kind of silly nitpicking? Isn't it ski
> > > bum season yet? Read my original response to his insult. I used the
> > > words, "considered the source" which means I wasn't personally
> > > insulted by his words. They didn't bother me. My self image is
> > > immune to his types.
> >
> > > > > The issue is whether it bothers you, the reader. That's the answer to
> > > > > your question, Alan. I knew his latest insult would require some
> > > > > context to the reader so I gave it. It isn't his first time insulting
> > > > > my wife or another. Providing his history allows everyone to be on
> > > > > the same page and personally deciding whether it's ok to disparage
> > > > > somebody's wife.
> >
> > > > And remaining silent would have left what he said something so innocuous
> > > > that many wouldn't have even known it was an insult...
> >
> > > Which is precisely why the reader needed to know the context, so they
> > > (the reader) could decide if these types of OTT insults are
> > > acceptable. I didn't want it to remain innocuous. It's happened
> > > before. Will it happen again? I hope not. Perhaps a little peer
> > > pressure might insure that wives stay out of the fray.
> >
> > > You're not married, are you?
> >
> > > -Greg
> >
> > Let me get this straight:
> >
> > You claim not to be bothered.
> >
> > People who didn't know the context couldn't take it as an insult to your
> > wife because of that fact, so cannot have been made to think any less of
> > her.
> >
> > So you thought the best thing to do was to make sure they could see it
> > as an insult...
> >
>
> Bingo....and before this goes any further, you answer this question.
> Is it ok with you to insult one's wife within this forum or any
> other. That's the issue. Your answer is......
>
> -Greg

No, I don't think it is.

But you're playing "see how awful he is" card and then showing how awful
you found it by spreading the insult farther...

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
From: Dene on
On Dec 6, 12:57 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> In article
> <c09a39f2-ef43-4e69-a00e-215aa0f4f...(a)e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> Dene <gdst...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 6, 12:29 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <c9e4d8b8-fd54-4ee3-9abd-b05787066...(a)e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > Dene <gdst...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > > On Dec 5, 9:12 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > No, Greg. *Your* behaviour shows that it doesn't bother *you* that much.
>
> > > > > If it bothered you so much, why did you identify to whom Tex was
> > > > > referring?
>
> > > > Alan....do you live for this kind of silly nitpicking? Isn't it ski
> > > > bum season yet? Read my original response to his insult. I used the
> > > > words, "considered the source" which means I wasn't personally
> > > > insulted by his words. They didn't bother me. My self image is
> > > > immune to his types.
>
> > > > > > The issue is whether it bothers you, the reader. That's the answer to
> > > > > > your question, Alan. I knew his latest insult would require some
> > > > > > context to the reader so I gave it. It isn't his first time insulting
> > > > > > my wife or another. Providing his history allows everyone to be on
> > > > > > the same page and personally deciding whether it's ok to disparage
> > > > > > somebody's wife.
>
> > > > > And remaining silent would have left what he said something so innocuous
> > > > > that many wouldn't have even known it was an insult...
>
> > > > Which is precisely why the reader needed to know the context, so they
> > > > (the reader) could decide if these types of OTT insults are
> > > > acceptable. I didn't want it to remain innocuous. It's happened
> > > > before. Will it happen again? I hope not. Perhaps a little peer
> > > > pressure might insure that wives stay out of the fray.
>
> > > > You're not married, are you?
>
> > > > -Greg
>
> > > Let me get this straight:
>
> > > You claim not to be bothered.
>
> > > People who didn't know the context couldn't take it as an insult to your
> > > wife because of that fact, so cannot have been made to think any less of
> > > her.
>
> > > So you thought the best thing to do was to make sure they could see it
> > > as an insult...
>
> > Bingo....and before this goes any further, you answer this question.
> > Is it ok with you to insult one's wife within this forum or any
> > other. That's the issue. Your answer is......
>
> > -Greg
>
> No, I don't think it is.
>
> But you're playing "see how awful he is" card and then showing how awful
> you found it by spreading the insult farther...

.......And you/Newt are trying your best to divert attention away from
Koenig's remark.

-Greg
From: Dene on
On Dec 6, 12:49 pm, John van der Pflum <nowhammymyspa...(a)bite.org>
wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 12:41:07 -0800 (PST), Dene <gdst...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> >It's in the context of life expectancy and what one should do with
> >their remaining years. Spending your retired years monitoring usenet
> >groups is a pathetic waste.
>
> Some people might think it is a pathetic waste to purchase a large
> boat and drive it up and down the nearest waterway. Some people might
> think it is a waste to spend hundreds of dollars organizing and
> hosting a golf event. Some people might think it is a total waste to
> walk around the woods taking pictures of wildlife. Some people might
> think it is a total waste memorizing the words to "Scotland the
> Brave." Some people might think it is a total waste to play the
> guitar or trombone. Some people might think it is a total waste learn
> to fly an airplane.
>
> Why is it for you or anyone else to decide the right way for someone
> to spend their time? Personally, I think boating is about the most
> boring thing in the world but you seem to enjoy it so why on earth
> would I insult your chosen pasttime unless I bear a grudge against you
> and do it just to be mean spirited?
> --
> jvdphttp://www.rsgcincinnati.com

It's simply my opinion. Opinions are what fuel a newgroup.

Someday, the admiral and I will boat through Cincy as part of the
"Great Loop" cruise. I will not be calling you....unless you bring
some of that good beer (she drank most of it).


-Greg
From: John van der Pflum on
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 13:09:41 -0800 (PST), Dene <gdstrue(a)aol.com> wrote:

>On Dec 6, 12:49 pm, John van der Pflum <nowhammymyspa...(a)bite.org>
>wrote:
>> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 12:41:07 -0800 (PST), Dene <gdst...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >It's in the context of life expectancy and what one should do with
>> >their remaining years. Spending your retired years monitoring usenet
>> >groups is a pathetic waste.
>>
>> Some people might think it is a pathetic waste to purchase a large
>> boat and drive it up and down the nearest waterway. Some people might
>> think it is a waste to spend hundreds of dollars organizing and
>> hosting a golf event. Some people might think it is a total waste to
>> walk around the woods taking pictures of wildlife. Some people might
>> think it is a total waste memorizing the words to "Scotland the
>> Brave." Some people might think it is a total waste to play the
>> guitar or trombone. Some people might think it is a total waste learn
>> to fly an airplane.
>>
>> Why is it for you or anyone else to decide the right way for someone
>> to spend their time? Personally, I think boating is about the most
>> boring thing in the world but you seem to enjoy it so why on earth
>> would I insult your chosen pasttime unless I bear a grudge against you
>> and do it just to be mean spirited?
>> --
>> jvdphttp://www.rsgcincinnati.com
>
>It's simply my opinion. Opinions are what fuel a newgroup.
>
>Someday, the admiral and I will boat through Cincy as part of the
>"Great Loop" cruise. I will not be calling you....unless you bring
>some of that good beer (she drank most of it).
>
>
>-Greg

Whatever works for you.
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
From: Alan Baker on
In article
<e7fcb7d5-7da2-491c-9759-5bbaa3bce351(a)d27g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Dene <gdstrue(a)aol.com> wrote:

> On Dec 6, 12:57 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <c09a39f2-ef43-4e69-a00e-215aa0f4f...(a)e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dene <gdst...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Dec 6, 12:29 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <c9e4d8b8-fd54-4ee3-9abd-b05787066...(a)e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > Dene <gdst...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Dec 5, 9:12 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > No, Greg. *Your* behaviour shows that it doesn't bother *you* that
> > > > > > much.
> >
> > > > > > If it bothered you so much, why did you identify to whom Tex was
> > > > > > referring?
> >
> > > > > Alan....do you live for this kind of silly nitpicking? Isn't it ski
> > > > > bum season yet? Read my original response to his insult. I used the
> > > > > words, "considered the source" which means I wasn't personally
> > > > > insulted by his words. They didn't bother me. My self image is
> > > > > immune to his types.
> >
> > > > > > > The issue is whether it bothers you, the reader. That's the
> > > > > > > answer to
> > > > > > > your question, Alan. I knew his latest insult would require some
> > > > > > > context to the reader so I gave it. It isn't his first time
> > > > > > > insulting
> > > > > > > my wife or another. Providing his history allows everyone to be
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > the same page and personally deciding whether it's ok to
> > > > > > > disparage
> > > > > > > somebody's wife.
> >
> > > > > > And remaining silent would have left what he said something so
> > > > > > innocuous
> > > > > > that many wouldn't have even known it was an insult...
> >
> > > > > Which is precisely why the reader needed to know the context, so they
> > > > > (the reader) could decide if these types of OTT insults are
> > > > > acceptable. I didn't want it to remain innocuous. It's happened
> > > > > before. Will it happen again? I hope not. Perhaps a little peer
> > > > > pressure might insure that wives stay out of the fray.
> >
> > > > > You're not married, are you?
> >
> > > > > -Greg
> >
> > > > Let me get this straight:
> >
> > > > You claim not to be bothered.
> >
> > > > People who didn't know the context couldn't take it as an insult to
> > > > your
> > > > wife because of that fact, so cannot have been made to think any less
> > > > of
> > > > her.
> >
> > > > So you thought the best thing to do was to make sure they could see it
> > > > as an insult...
> >
> > > Bingo....and before this goes any further, you answer this question.
> > > Is it ok with you to insult one's wife within this forum or any
> > > other. That's the issue. Your answer is......
> >
> > > -Greg
> >
> > No, I don't think it is.
> >
> > But you're playing "see how awful he is" card and then showing how awful
> > you found it by spreading the insult farther...
>
> ......And you/Newt are trying your best to divert attention away from
> Koenig's remark.
>
> -Greg

No.

I'm trying to understand why someone who claims to find something so
offensive would go out of his way to make sure everyone who had no clue
what it was about would know.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
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